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lw@zi wrote: I did not notice that; still don't.
Claiming white people raise their kids differently than black people? Or differently than Hispanics?
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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You probably missed "As internet stereotypes tell me" in my post.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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lw@zi wrote: You probably missed "As internet stereotypes tell me" in my post.
No. I didn't say you were racist. But that statement is very offensive to many, I'm sure.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Well, it is a possibility. But then the statement itself disqualifies itself to be a fact because it mentions it is based on stereotypes. Nevertheless, this is an unending discussion so lets move and rant about VB6 or something.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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lw@zi wrote: rant about VB6
Still trying to keep the soapbox alive. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Seriously: Is it really offensive to point out that different people do things differently? And that the way we do things are significantly affected by our cultural background?
And: If you point out that people's cultural background affect their behaviour, is that, by definition, racist? If I point out that people in Norway, do things in ways different from "Norwegians" in Minnesota and Iowa, is that in any way racism? They could be my second and third cousins; yet they behave as Americans, not as Norwegians. Does that mean that pointing out differences in behaviour is non-racist, but pointing out the same differences between people in Norway and "Germans" (of which there is a fair share in Minnesota and Iowa) is racist because they are not my second and third cousins?
One conclusion might be that social anthropologists, studying differences between cultures, are professional racists...
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I don't think it's racist nor was I offended by it. However, it is an offensive statement.
So, you believe all/most white people discipline their children differently than blacks and Hispanics? And culture is not limited to race.
Claiming people parent differently based on their race is not accurate.
I was once called racist for saying black people tend to be better basketball players.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Up until five or ten years ago, Norwegian humour - including the ways people were teasing each other - could be so rough that you wouldn't believe it. Especially up north; the Sami population even have a particular term ("nárrideapmi") for training kids from an early age to handle insults, ridicule, teasing, offenses... The non-Sami Norwegians are much the same; some of the joking and teasing shouldn't be translated literally to other languages, it would be too harsh.
Then came the new wave of the n-word beeing forbidden. To describe the looks of my Indian colleagues, you couln't refer to the skin hue by color name but had to refer to the person as "afroamerican", even if he had never been neither to Africa nor America. We got the MeeToo wave, requiring a male to look in another direction when meeting a female, or he might be accused of "raping her with his eyes". (It isn't quite that bad, but close.) Especially when Internet is involved, we are getting completely crazy, like this guy who was sentenced to many years in prison for raping no less than 120 women - but technically, he was a virgin! He had never met any of these 120 women in person; he had seen their body on his PC screen. There are numerous other examples.
This is still so new in Norwegian culture that lots of people still remember the times when you wouldn't have to consider every single word you uttered against all the hangups of every person in the room. Times when you could use the name of a color to describe skin. When you could refer to a pronounced characteristic of a group of people without having to qualify it with "Most of the xxx, but there may be exceptions", every time you refer to them. So, Norwegian humour has displayed a number of parodic "National 'I am offended!' Championship" events, making great laughs of (real) complaints in media, from individuals, religious groups, religious/national populations etc. that claim to be offended, discriminated against, victims of hate etc., because of tiny little details that noone else would ever think of as negative in any sense. The adience laughs, too - we still remember the days when we could speak freely, make jokes and even raise critical voices to the foreign policy of other nations, without being accused of hatred or discrimination.
In another five or ten years, I guess we all have become so tender and sensitive that it will be considered offensive even to mention that once upon a time, we could speak more freely, without having to make excuses, explicitly open for exceptions, using all sorts of euphemisms when talking or writing.
I do not consider it offensive to point out that disciplining children varies a whole lot from one culture to another. I consider it a plain fact. We could of course try to bring up statistics showing e.g. how many perecent of the kids have experienced spanking in Norway, in the "Norwegian" population in the USA, in the Hispanic and the afro-american population. I would be very surprised if there were not significant differences. It would not in any way prove that "all/most" people in one population group have a specific behaviour, only that a given behaviour is significantly more prevalent in that group than in others.
How a given population group is identified (by nationality, race, geography, ...) really doesn't matter, if statistics for that group differ significantly from other groups. I may offend anyone from the US by pointing out that a significantly higher percentage of Americans have been spanked as a kid than Norwegians: Here, spanking was considered highly inappropriate from the 1960s, and forbidden by law since the 1970, so the percentage here is very close to zero. I have spoken with sufficiently many from the US to know that it is certainly not zero in the US.
I do not know whether the percentage would be higher if you focus on Afroamericans or Hispanics. That is not my point, but the super-sensitivity and vulnerability of lots of modern people: When some guy writes that the stereotypes are that so-and-so, and people are offended by his reference to the steretyping of population, not to the populations themselves, then those offended should really try to relax a little more.
One web shop (I believe it was The Onion) a few years back sold T-shirts with the text "Stereotypes are great time savers". That could be considered a general term covering all stereotypes, so that anyone who considers themselves covered by any stereotyp would have the right to feel offended by the text on the T-shirt ...
Of course not. But when you can't see a statment "The stereotypical so-and-so ..." without crying out about racism, then you are not that far away from being offended by that T-shirt.
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get something from bostondynamics...
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Flak jacket and a helmet.
Things are only going to get worse.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Every minute she wakes up later than she should is 1€ (or whatever the currency you use) less for her week assignation.
That should help a bit.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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All hope abandon, ye who have had children.
By the time she reaches 18, she may turn into a responsible human being. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I guess I was lucky with my daughter ... or maybe I was smart ... I never had any problems neither getting her to sleep nor to get her out of bed.
We never commanded her "Now you go to sleep, or else...!" From she was a toddler, I spent maybe half an hour with her getting into her pajamas, reading another chapter to her from a book (before she started school, she knew at least a couple hundred books), singing at least one of her favorite lullabyes, and the caress she loved. She had a casette player by her bedside, and I never told her not to use it after I had left her room. If I checked in fifteen minutes later, I would usually find her firmly asleep with some soft music still playing.
The morning started with some soft caress, like a hand in her neck, some soft tickeling, before I lifted her, still half asleep, up on my arm, her arms around my neck. Holding my other arm around her, carefully setting her down on the floor. I made waking up into a positive, warm experience from day one. When she grew too old to be lifted out of bed, she didn't forget the pleasant feeling of waking up to a new day. Even if you feel really tired, you still love daddy's warm hand in your neck, giving you a warm wake-up welcome.
Sleeping never was associated with bad feelings at night, waking up never in the mornings. Both had a lot of positive, warm elements.
If a kid most of her life has been forced to go to bed, Sleep, dammit!!, and forced out of bed, you may have a hard time changing her experience ten to fifteen years later. If you, on the other hand, start out with a toddler, there is much more of "You get what you ask for". I asked for "as little problems as possible", and managed to get very few problems.
Besides, here in Scandinavia we have a rich tradition with children's books, so even as an adult you may enjoy reading them to your kid. Lots of those I read were actually from when I was schoolboy myself, giving me a great opportunity to talk about what life was like in those days. The songs I gave her were also from my own childhood, balancing the modern music that is rather unfit as lullabyes. In brief: I surely enjoyed those bedside hours myself!
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I feel your pain. My youngest son, 10 years old, behaves similarly.
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Ooh you have a real problem there. It's going to require a real solution.
Ceiling speakers that blare Megadeth speed metal loud and the appointed time until princess sleepy head understands things better.
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super wrote: So my biggest dilemma is should I buy a new clock or a helmet for myself.
Get a new clock, and give it to her along with the receipt for it, to replace the property she's destroyed. Works best if her birthday is coming up shortly so you can give it to her then.
(As you may be able to tell, I'm no parent. By choice.)
Not that I'm a morning person myself, but I've never had to rely on an alarm clock. I've probably been awake before 6:00am / 6:30am every day of my life without ever trying. Not that I get up at that time. But by the time I need to get up, I've already done enough tossing and turning to get up without any hassle.
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Buy her a nice bicycle that'll substitute for the taxi service you provide when she misses the current mode of getting to whereever. The incentive to get out of the rack in the morning is the first hurdle.
The next, what to do on steep uphills ...
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Northern Star – a sign that stings! (8)
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Scorpion?
I know that is one of the star signs (can't remember which), and it can sting.
EDIT... Obvious the star sign is Scorpio 
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As you say ... obvious!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The "sign that stings" bit is obvious but I'm missing something with "Northern Star" ...
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Northern N
Star – a sign SCORPIO
that stings!
SCORPION
The idea was to confuse you into thinking about "Northern star" and "sign" rather than "Northern" and "star sign"
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That still comes out as NSCORPIO! 
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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PeejayAdams wrote: NSCORPIO
Which is exactly how you would spell "scorpion" if you had just been stung by one. Ergo, the whole clue is an anagram indicator! 
At least that would be my defence to your accusations if I was Griff's lawyer. Alas I am not, so off to the stocks with him!
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OriginalGriff wrote: The idea was to confuse you into thinking about "Northern star" and "sign" rather than "Northern" and "star sign"
And that it did, it confused me until I got to the end of the clue, and then it all became as clear as the night sky.
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