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I stand corrected. Cheers.
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David Crow wrote: I use Windows 10 with an older version of Office and the "grab" areas are normal size.
Yup. That's because it's not a Windows 10 feature, it's a bunch of individual app developers all drinking similar koolaid and rolling their own mutually inconsistent and frequently buggy implementations of custom titlebars they can vomit buttons into.
I blame browser authors pushing tabs into the titlebar for making this crime against usability seem acceptable. 
If it was an officially supported feature it'd suck less in that the titlebar would still have all its regular features and presumably have a consistent reserved area as a grab handle.
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--Zachris Topelius
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Now, try it on a tablet ... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Now, try it on a tablet ...
I'm bettin' it's really terrible ain't it?
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You have no idea ...
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I don't have a problem with that, because a keyboard user does not touch the mouse for moving windows.
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Please try the following:
Press keyboard "Windows" + Direction key (Up, down, right, left).
Isn't this cool?
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Not if you want windows that aren't quasi-maximized.
Alt+Space
M
Arrows
works for versions of only if you're happy with movement so slow it's faster to take your hands off the keyboard, get a mouse out of the drawer, plug it in, wait for windows to load the driver, move the window with the mouse, unplug the mouse, put it back into the drawer, and put your hands back on the keyboard.
It's only really useful for when monitor changes (eg docked to standalone laptop) leave a window location off screen because once you've arrowed it once the mouse will move it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Marc Greiner at home wrote: Press keyboard "Windows" + Direction key (Up, down, right, left).
Isn't this cool?
Yeah, I've been using that (well, alt + spacebar) since Win 3.1 when I would be installing Windows on computers we had sold that didn't have a mouse attached. Yes, we provided mice, but sometimes at the bench I was too lazy to get up and grab a mouse. 
Those were the days! 
However, this is a bit different because to use that keyboard command you have to first set focus to the window. Well, yes, I guess you can Alt-Tab through and then use that, so that is a reasonable option. I don't really like the mouse anyways. It's a distraction from typing. 
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Seconding the other keyboard user:
Try
Alt+Spacebar
This should pop the system menu for the focused app
I use
M
UpArrow
cursor keys or mouse to relocate.
M for Move
UpArrow to grab the top of the window since I normally need to do this for some application that has pushed off of the top of the screen. I use one portrait mode monitor and one landscape mode monitor which makes it easy to (accidentally) position frames in weird locations.
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Then try
ALT + Delete
for an RDP window. (Microsoft client and server)
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englebart wrote: ALT + Delete
Very good!! Thanks very much. I will use that early and often.
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I'd rather deal with that than the fact that, since Windows 8 (?), you only have a one-pixel border you can grab onto in order to resize windows. I've been a Windows user since 2.0, and this is infuriating. I have no such problem with moving windows by grabbing the caption area.
That, and disappearing scrollbars. It's impossible to have the mouse stay in one position while I'm reading a long page in a browser and I just want to go down a few lines. Worse when all you have is a trackpad. Before that sort of thing, I could just keep hitting the trackpad's button while leaving the pointer alone.
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dandy72 wrote: I'd rather deal with that than the fact that, since Windows 8 (?), you only have a one-pixel border you can grab onto in order to resize windows.
Agree 100%.
It's so crazy too because we who understand Windows know that the border is really there - just a drawing trick - and yet you cannot get a hold on the window. It's terrible. I often get the resize cursor, go to click and it moves one pixel and does not grab the window. It's really a terrible feature all to make things look modern.
Analogy: It'd be like having a beautiful front door that no longer has hinges because the designer wanted it to be beautiful. Now you have to crawl in your window to get inside your house.
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Your analogy is rather Apple-esque. Lets remove the headphone jack so the phone looks prettier. You'll probably lose your ear buds constantly, but hey, that's what they sell $180 replacements for.
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Yes, the Apple Designers forgot:
Anonymous: Form (beauty) follows function.
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They didn't forget--it's a conscious decision. That makes them idiots in my book.
Idiots who still make money hand over fist, which means their buyers are the bigger idiots.
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I know it's going to sound like a workaround, but for those of us who regularly use a Linux desktop, it's more of the "natural way": go get something like AltDrag and drag your windows from _anywhere_, when you have a modifier key (traditionally Alt) depressed. Same for resizing, normally with the right button.
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I totally agree, this issue frequently bugs me. What kind of computer system requires repeated instruction to perform a simple task? It also goes against software etiquette which is why I was very surprised MS did this. I was taught the importance of including visible 'grab-points' on windows. Sure, it may free up some screen space, perhaps they were catering for those tediously microscopic display screens on mobiles. The lesson is, I think, that one operating system can not solve all problems: 'horses for courses' as they say. Windows has tried to hard to be a one-man band.
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Looking for some feedback and suggestions on what model / provider to get it from. Thanks. There seems to be dozens of knock-offs, and it's hard to tell what's what. 
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what's a Gizmo watch? sound's a bit faddish/silly.
my gifting inspiration comes from my father:
- a firm believer in only buying useful gifts for me and my brothers.
once he really splashed out big and got us a lawnmower, I mean a proper one with a motor .
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It's a basic smart watch for kids. Has GPS tracking, and has a feature where the kid can text or voice call a select list of recipients (usually dad/mom/nanny).
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And here I was going to make a suggestion for this Gizmo...y'know, from Gremlins...
I need to stop being so literal.
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Your father bought you and your brother a lawn mower! 
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