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Mark_Wallace wrote: getting even 14 developers to agree on what is top priority is a nigh-on impossible task.
No problem. Bacon, anyone?
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Correction... we are nearly 14 million users...
Maybe 1 million developers?
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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You've got buckleys, apathy will kill the idea before it gets going.
However you might try something like the weekly survey, The weekly BUG, but your numbers are going to be insignificant.
Propose a bug, get votes on board, have CP present it to MS. I'm pretty sure CM has a good pipeline into MS by now.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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You sound like someone with stockholm syndrome.
Instead of arranging petitions to force a vendor to change, why not simply switch to something else?
This is literally how it works with everything else - if a product sucks consumers move to another product.
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Precisely. However, who makes better Products than Microsoft?
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Quote: However, who makes better Products than Microsoft?
Just about everyone, IME. In fact, some of Microsoft's products were literally so bad that they killed them off in favour of open source alternatives.
TFVC was such a dumpster-fire that MS bought github instead of trying to fix it.
Windows Mobile was so bad that it caused the largest phone manufacturer to become the smallest phone manufacturer in less than 18 months.
Windows CE was such a pain to use that every single embedded device OS uses something else (more often than not, Linux). Right now I think it might even be officially dead from Microsoft.
Their edge browser engine was so unfixable they simply replaced it with one they didn't write.
Their OS, in general, is so unsuitable for cloud computing that, right now, there are more Linux instances on Azure than their are Windows instances on Azure.
So, yeah, other than a few outliers that really are humdingers in terms of revenue, the majority of their stuff is simply ignored by the world.
C# appears to be one thing they got correct. Lets see how long it is before a new boss comes in to MS and f***s it up.
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Member 13301679 wrote: Just about everyone
Nobody makes a better office suite nor a better OS. Development tools by Microsoft far outshine anyone else.
They pioneered touch-screen.
Version Control in TFS is better than the others.
Your opinion is different than mine but the fact that they still run the software speaks volumes.
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Well, you asked who makes better software than Microsoft, and I gave a few examples of the top of my head where they make poor software. I also said they have a few humdinger cash-cows (i.e. Windows, Office, Xbox and Azure).
Even their OS is limited to desktop use almost exclusively, and that's because that's what came with the PC or that's what corporates buy.
When users where given a choice to buy devices with or without Windows on them, they rejected Windows almost universally. On the desktop users get no choice. Everywhere else they chose something other than Windows.
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Member 13301679 wrote: they rejected Windows almost universally.
I bought a PC and installed Linux instead of Windows once. Worst computer mistake I've ever made. Windows is so many times better than Linux.
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Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Quote: Windows is so many times better than Linux.
Is that why Linux is preferred over Windows for supercomputers?
Or for large HA clusters?
Or small clusters?
Or servers?
Or high-resource workstations?
Or tablets?
Or phones?
Or credit-card terminals?
Or car on-board computers?
Or car infotainment systems?
Or industrial control systems?
Or IoT devices?
For the desktop, Windows is ubiquituous. Outside of that single, narrow space Linux has been chosen time and time again by industry over Windows offerings.
Now, I've written software for Supercomputing clusters, for HA clusters, for phones, credit-card terminals, Industrial systems, IoT devices, factories, and even munitions control systems, and all of those systems run Linux, not Windows.
On the desktop, the OS is allowed to be unreliable so Windows is great! When the software is controlling explosives, any failure mode is unacceptable and so Windows is very rarely seen.
Now I'm glad that Windows works for you, and you seem to quite like it, but in pure numbers alone the number of Windows installations is a fraction of the number of Linux systems out there. Android (running on Linux, natch) alone has roughly twice as many users as MS Windows globally.
Once Windows hits the numbers that Linux has, then we can actually compare them - now there is no point because Windows usage is so tiny compared to Linux usage.
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Remember, people like Code Project members made Windows 10 happen.
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Peter Adam wrote: people like Code Project members made Windows 10 happen.
 It wasn't going to happen on its own?
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We are also responsible for it being the year of Linux too.😁
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No. It was the reply to the Linux fans here (see influencer) who bashed Microsoft on every occasion to be slow to deliver code. Also they were early adopters, instantly downloading and installing every "fix" and "feature" they were provided by by their favorite distro.
So, the rest got forced updates, constant change of UI and else to satisfy these influencers.
But, since Linux is religion, with first commandment "Linux is better than Windows, at any given moment", Microsoft achieved nothing, and the rest of the world swallows.
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Forogar wrote: With nearly 14 million of us, Code Project members could put in a lot of complaints if we wanted to. The trick would be to organise the plan of ...um, I hesitate to use the word "attack" as this is not what I want to propose.
Oh please do not be so scared!
That can be called much more suitable than the bad word! It's not an attack!
As a matter of principle, it would only be one thing: "Democratic expression with an organized media protest".
Right? 
Something about which we often break our head:
"In the name of the Compiler, the Stack, and the Bug-Free Code. Amen."
(source unknown)
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Forogar wrote: Don't you wish this could happen?
No.
Forogar wrote: Microsoft only listens to complaints when enough people complain about the same thing.
Which is true for most companies. You have to prioritize.
People complain so much about Microsoft but I don't see how they are any different than any other company of any product. Oh, except for the fact that they make it easier than anyone else to develop their products and make them better, creating millions of great careers in this world.
Forogar wrote: Opinions?
Y'all are doing something wrong. Every other version of Windows is terrible but then they get it fixed by the next version. Other than that, all of their software works perfectly for me. I don't know what you all are doing. 
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Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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The challenge would be sending complaints that don't look "coached" and don't suddenly start appearing even though the "problem" may have been around for several months and is well known.
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The first problem is getting consensus.
So is the second, third and fourth.
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Shoot the German husband! (4)
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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DASH
Das = German for "The"
H = husband
Dash = shoot
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Yep! 
You have just been Sharapova'd.
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PeejayAdams wrote: Das = German for "The"
Gender now has really become a social construct.
With this explanation you could also end up with 'dieh' or (more consequently) with 'derh', unless you intended to neuter the poor husband, in which case 'dash' would be fine. 
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Correct answer should be: die (who identifies as der) h
and all other combinations 
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Yep,
Apparently that's what's been holding the internet together for the last thirty years. Let me explain;
I am currently working on a closed source DHCP client and server. A perfect implementation of RFC 951, RFC 1534, RFC 1542, RFC 2131, RFC 2132 and RFC 3046. The source code was very elegant and I was quite pleased. Verified and tested it against DNSMASQ, ISC DHCP and various other servers and clients. Everything works as expected!
But then...
I decided to test against older DHCP clients and servers... that's when I realized that for the last 25 years nobody even completely understood the DHCP protocol. Nearly 100% of the DHCP servers I am testing have bugs.
Older versions of Windows Server with a default install will send just the IP address and lease time. No T1 or T2 values which violates the RFC. It also does weird things like NULL terminate it's strings and identifiers. It also sends some of the DHCP values in the wrong network byte order. I'm finding some other DHCP implementations that implement broadcast/unicast incorrectly and ignore the flags. Some DHCP servers just SPAM the network with gratuitous DHCPINFORM messages.
In fact...excluding software written in the last five years... I can't seem to find any DHCP servers in the past 25 years that does NOT have any bugs.
My once beautiful code now has to check for wrong network byte order, NULL terminated strings, missing DHCP options, missing T1 T2 time values and various other weirdness.
You probably thought these old RFC written 30 years ago have been perfected. You were wrong.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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