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Jammer22-May-19 20:57
Jammer22-May-19 20:57 
Hey All,

So I've landed my new gig.

The team is a mix of perms and contractors (I'm a contractor). The team is great, a really nice bunch of people. However ...

The main product being ported to new tech is big and complex (I like complex, that isn't the problem) and legacy in places, that also isn't a problem. The problem is that the business threw this major web site build at their in-house Windows Forms developers that had never built a web site before, let alone one as complex as this and basically they've screwed the pooch.

I have no idea exactly when the project started but the first batch of contractors went in last year. There is a lot of code already and they are really under pressure to deliver quickly. It's barely 20% of the final product and its complete spaghetti already. I'm on my first task and what should have taken a day at most is now on day 3 and barely started. It took most of the first day to even figure out where to put any new code. They have taken multiple web frameworks and approaches and munged them altogether. Missing the fundamentals of each and using bits of each framework for various tasks. It runs sooooooooooooooo sloooooooooowly.

I would normally work through stuff like this and gradually improve things etc. But this re-write already needs a re-write. Due to how they have set things up gradually improving things just isn't an option. I honestly cannot see the project getting delivered to production. If it does get there it's going to be one holy nightmare to support, costly and no doubt very error prone.

I know at least one other contractor on the team feels exactly the same as me. Everyone else seems to just be business as usual. Developer productivity is completely shot to pieces. The potential impact on the business is huge and expensive.

I feel a responsibility to highlight my thoughts but I also have no idea who made some of the decisions or any of the historical politics. The feeling I get is an undercurrent of a few people knowing this but not really knowing what to do about it.

I have no idea what to do or say at the moment so for me it's also going to be business as usual. I have no idea what the reaction would be to me saying anything. Nor who would be most offended or become defensive. The problem I have personally is that I feel adding to the mess is morally wrong. Not to mention that this is going to make my work life for the next however long extremely stressful and entirely unenjoyable.

How have you guys dealt with these situations?
Jammer
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