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lopati: roaming wrote: So to answer the question: You're only worth how much it costs the boss to replace you.
That's a good one to keep in your mind when asking for the next raise. In a time where there's a shortage in trained and trustworthy employees, it becomes easier to be worth ones weight in silver.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Thanks, I have an answer now.
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GKP1992 wrote: Can you judge the worth of your work?
I can quantify the cost and look up past profits, but that is not the same as the worth.
How much value is there for an end-user in being freed from Jira? 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Yes.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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 Thanks for making me feel stupid.
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That wasn't the intent.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Often attributed to Albert Einstein
Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts.
This is really the truth of measuring your value. You can't really tell, because things that are infinitely important may not be counted at all. Other things that the market deems important may be measured and you have none of it.
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Well, maybe seeing ca. 20K hits/day on the web pages (all web applications that are used to do company business) and hundreds of users spending their time staring at my screens puts the work at some definite value. That it's totally adaptable to new company "brain storms"*
With so many people dependent upon it, it must be worth something.
* Programmers Prayer:
"Oh Great Deity, spare me from managerial brain-storms this day.
Pour out thy wrath upon these misbegotten throwbacks
That the creation (of code) are not debased by their whims."
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W∴ Balboos wrote: * Programmers Prayer:
Pour out Thy wrath upon the managers that know our value not,
and upon the departments that call not upon our expertise.
For they have devoured the hardware budget, and wasted it on new shinys.
Remember not against us the technical debt of our predecessors;
let Thy compassions speedily come to meet us; for we are brought very low.
(With apologies to King David)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I was wondering - would these prayers work better if a department has ten or more programmers?
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W∴ Balboos wrote: would these prayers work better if a department has ten or more programmers?
Only if they are all professional members of the ACM!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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AS SOON AS YOU TOLD ME IT WAS FLAKY IT STOPPED RUNNING MY CUSTOM TOOLS!
You know who you are.
You owe me all of this virgin blood i have to spill to get the thing working again.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some dark arts to perform.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Perhaps you are just doing it wrong.
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I'm always doing it wrong. So wrong it's right.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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that's what *he* said.
i *will* hex you, if you mess with me!
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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yeah, I was the smartest kid in my friendship group. And the dumbest
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relatable content
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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codewitch honey crisis wrote: You owe me all of this virgin blood i have to spill to get the thing working again.
To say nothing of the citations for grevious bodily harm (or worse...  )
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I do it to goldfish. The gods hate it but a deal is a deal.
They should have read the fine print.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Personally, I find that sacrificing an MSCE works better. It has the advantage that while someone may actually miss the virgins, no one will miss the MSCE. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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That venn almost entirely overlaps in any case
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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