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RickZeeland wrote: And rejoice, because tomorrow it's Kings day here in the Netherlands
My street has already turned into one giant pub!
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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The cynic in me wants to say that 4x10 hours can easily turn into 5x10 hours.
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My experience has been that the "normal" 5x8 tends to turn into 5x10 anyway (or 4x8 + 1x24, or 5xuntil-you-can't-see-straight, or something like that). Point is, once I'm "in the zone," I tend to want to keep going as long as I can, rather than stop at a particular point on the clock and have to reboot my brain the next morning. Plus, with all the typical interruptions during business hours, I often don't really start being productive until 4 or 5pm anyway. Having three days a week off would almost have to be a positive.
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I suppose it mostly depends on who your customers are and what your role is. I'm self-employed and work from home, so I'm basically 'on call' 24/5. Luckily, the majority of my customers are within a time zone and operate 'normal' business hours. (8-5) Also, through years of hard work, current products are stable and don't require a great deal of support. 
Forogar wrote: How would you feel about such a change to your schedule?
To be honest, I think I would wind up working anyway. The truth is, over 10 years ago due to IRS problems and an addiction to golf, I found a Saturday job where I was unsupervised and that allowed me to spend 90% of my time working on my laptop. About a year ago I tried to quit the Saturday job but they begged me to at least work a couple of days a month, so I agreed. (it all goes to taxes anyway)
Another truth...there's been many weekends doing the yardwork where I look forward to Monday! Maybe I'm a workaholic, but they won't let me quit!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Quote: an addiction to golf
That must have been Volkswagen Golf 
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RickZeeland wrote: That must have been Volkswagen Golf
I wish my golf involved farfegnugen! (auto-correct is no help here, sorry for the ms!) 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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would love it.
I think this could seriously work. AS others have pointed it out you need coverage 24/7 or 8/5 just have people pick differing days of the week. I would love to have Wed or Mon off and work every Friday. Sign me up.
It is an idea whose time has come for those of us who work a desk job. Seriously some weeks I only need to work about 3-4 hours to get my entire job done for the week. Other weeks. 40 isn't enough. But I find that when I work 40 the quality of the work I produce goes down. So I need that time away from the coding screen and away from work in order to get my mind working right.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Around 94 I was working half-time.
40-hour-weeks.
Every second week. That made for 9 consecutive days off. Every second week. Was nice ![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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For most of '96 and '97 I worked 12 hour shifts with every other Sunday off. (union rules) I was a machine operator at a box plant...running a 2 color flexographic/die-cutter/folder/gluer. For those two years, the 2nd shift position was vacant/training mostly due to hiring people off the street with no experience. It was good money and no time to spend it. I wasn't single when it started, but I was at the end...that was a good thing! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I would love it, but the cynic in me fears it would, over time, lead to 5 - 10 hour days per week.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Years ago, one one my colleagues lived by a 6 day week - 6 days of 28 hours = 168 hours, rather than 7 days of 24 hours = 168 hours. Monday mornings when we arrived at 08:00, he had been working for 5-6 hours already. Tuesdays he started out an hour or two before us, Wednesdays a couple hours later, and Thursdays he wasn't there until after lunch. Fridays he wasn't there at all, having worked enough hours the first four days of the week.
This company employed you to get things done, not to sit there for 40 hours a week. If you completed your tasks in significantly less than 40 h/week, you were expected to be assigned more tasks. If your tasks required much more than 40 h/week, you were expected to ask for an assistant to offload you. Noone counted hours by the minutes. Certainly this simplified the formal issues of adapting to a 6*28 schedule, and the guys in his team managed to schedule meetings to fit his daily rythm.
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One employer I had in the early 90s changed to a two-week schedule consisting of 9 hours on Monday through Thursday, plus an 8-hour Friday and a Friday off.
Scheduling was such that they ensured that they had essential tasks covered every Friday. (e.g. there were two of us doing System Management of OpenVMS systems, and we couldn't have the same Fridays off.)
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: two-week schedule consisting of 9 hours on Monday through Thursday, plus an 8-hour Friday and a Friday off
This is similar to my work schedule; Tuesdays through Friday have an extra hour added, and I have every other Monday off. There are others whose day is Friday. Either way, such is a WONDERFUL schedule: that extra "rest" day is very recuperative and it gives you a day to schedule all of those activities that MUST be during your normal work hours (doctor, dentist, automotive maintenance, home service personnel, etc.).
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Forogar wrote: I am now working a 34-hour week which counts a full-time or part-time depending upon who you ask.
However, the days are 7, 7, 7, 7 and 6 hours (on Friday)
I have what in Germany is called the "Gleitzeit-Job". My contract is for 35 hours per week and a "valid" work range from 06:00h to 19:00h. Extra hours to be taken as spare time 1:1. I theroetically can do what I want, but...
Forogar wrote: and I was thinking of seeing if I can change this to four 8.5-hour days
This is something we can't do, at least oficially on regular basis. We could do several weeks in a row like this, changing the free day. But it has to have an end and then be a 5 days week for a while. But I can still do two days early, two days later and one at home, if I would like to.
At the end, I usually work 5 days a week from [6:30, 07:00] to [14:45, 15:30] and get a day / couple of days off from time to time when I want / need them.
M.D.V. 
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Forogar wrote: How would you feel about such a change to your schedule?
Please do.
I can probably reach 30-40 hrs a week. At the moment reaching 0 hrs.
Flexibility means I could be productive somewhere 
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Yipes - you had me really scared for a moment. You mean a four-day WORK WEEK.
It seems that, under (not) your plan we'd have two twenty-hour days between weekends.
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I worked a four day week once too. 10 hours a day on Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday's off, and 10 hours a day on Thursday and Friday.
It was wonderful. 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off.
Work is good for the soul. Too much work will kill you. Moderation in all things.
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I switched to a 30 hour, 4 day week a few years back. It's a 20% pay cut but a 50% rise in days off, and has felt like a good trade off.
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Physicians often work 12-hour shifts. Less productivity is better for everyone since it is measured by how many patients they see.
TOMZ_KV
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I'm actually thinking I should propose that, but without the 10-hour-day part. A way to ease myself into retirement.
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I got fed up in January. Said kiss my a$$ and retired. Less disposable income now, but I have never been happier in my life.
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I am hoping to do that soon - I just need that one lottery ticket to come up! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Our office allows 9 days (80 hours) worked over 2 weeks ( 1 pay period) in addition to the 4x10 schedule.
For groups that require a lot of coverage, individuals are assigned days throughout the week that rotate throughout the year. They are staffed at 90% on every work day.
For groups that don't require as much coverage most people take Friday off, so every Friday only 50% of the staff is present.
The 50% that is there has a lot of uninterrupted time on Fridays to really crank out projects, plus they usually leave an hour early so as to cap at 80 hours.
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I had a 9 x 4 week. Had Fridays off was great. I took two weeks of vacation one day at time, every Monday for July and August and Friday to Monday off, for the summer and I living neat the ocean. I used my vacation budget on front row concert tickets and sine short travel. Was a summer to remember
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