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French Speakers Out There . . .
. . . the language is dying - I suggest you find an alternative and bale as soon as possible. Anything will do as your plan be (as an upgrade from your current 'plan C'). Rundi, perhaps? Or the more popular Kinyarwanda? Or good ol' pig-latin[^] - least traumatic change available.
Just trying to be helpful!
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How about Nahuatl? Some really nice words, like tomato or chocolate come from this languge.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Shhhhhh! Don't let them find out about it.
Let's not give them a chance to ruin tomato or chocolate!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Let's not give them a chance to ruin tomato or chocolate!
They already did:
Tomato ==> tomate
Chocolate ==> chocolat
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I do not hear them.
I will not hear them.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: French Speakers Out There . . .
. . . the language is dying - I suggest you find an alternative and bale as soon as possible.
There's already a rather viable alternative.
My folks watch the news in French (they live in Eastern Ontario, right across the border from Quebec), and it always amuses me that TVA Nouvelles (their biggest news broadcaster) has been running commercials for years from some company that teaches English.
One commercial shows some 30-something woman getting home and listening to her training material on her phone, which starts off with some basics like "I have a car" (the running joke being that every time the commercial comes on, it's a competition to determine who's going to be the first one to shout "I HAVE A CAR!").
I find it appalling that, this being a bilingual country, Quebecers have to resort to private companies to teach them basic stuff that like.
In another commercial, two women (same age group) are jogging (starts off with one saying to the other, "so I hear you got your promotion") and are accosted by some guy asking, in English, for directions to a restaurant - first one replies (in French) "sorry, I don't speak English"; the second one jumps in and gives him simple directions and he's on his way. The first one then asks the second (in the overacting way only commercial actors can) "SINCE WHEN DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH!??!". The point they're trying to get across is that if you speak English, you're the one who's going to be promoted.
I could understand how some older people in the province might have missed the opportunity to learn in English in school - one of my cousin's father-in-law, in his 60s, who lives all his life in Quebec, says he would love to speak it, but that it wasn't an option back in his day. But when 30-somethings today - who finished school less than a decade ago - still can't get by with a few fundamental sentences...there's something wrong.
That same news program never misses an opportunity to sound the alarm and report that French is "losing ground" somehow. Is it? Even if that was true...they really can't afford to continue to isolate themselves from the rest of the world, at a time where they're trying to have a presence on the global market. Learning English doesn't mean you somehow "lose your French". It's not one or the other.
[rant over]
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dandy72 wrote: I find it appalling that, this being a bilingual country, Quebecers have to resort to private companies to teach them basic stuff that like.
That, as I understand it, is a one-way street: all of the rest of Canada requires bilingual government employees - Quebec bans English on public signs and stores, including imposing fines. The basic animosity has been the flunk-o-phones against everyone else - because they like it that way.
The US should look at your example (and also Belgium, and even Switzerland) and stop this rolling towards bi-lingual English/Spanish. It divides people. Speak as many languages as you want - as many as you can - but do put maximum effort to speak the common speech of the a newly adopted homeland.
As for Quebec - it a fitting punishment for Canada's "we're so nice" arrogance.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: That, as I understand it, is a one-way street: all of the rest of Canada requires bilingual government employees
It's not necessarily that all government employees are required to speak French (for most jobs), but you definitely are picked first if you're bilingual. As far as I know, French is taught in schools in all provinces, even where there is no French community at all. Quebec, you see, insisted Canada be bilingual.
Yet they turn around and go out of their way to prevent English from being taught. And they'll deny being hypocrites about it.
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One of my favorite is the expression for standing someone up -> 'to put down a rabbit on someone'. Literal translations are funny.
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I have seen lately or observed that in our daily meeting someone starts with " I don't want to finger point and its just an observation that Mr XYZ ( blaming sentence)........... ".
I fail to see how this is not finger pointing? Or the standard line is the new political correctness which creeped in. Because at the end of the Day, it always lead to one guy defending and other opposing it.
cheers,
Super
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super wrote: I don't want to finger point (but I'm damn well going to) and
FTFY
It's just like people who start the sentence with "I'm not a racist, but ..."
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Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Not to mention ' I'm a doctor, not a ....'
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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"I've got nothing against homosexuals, as long as they keep their hands off me."
I've heard that one too often.
Like every homosexual is a rapist that's into you.
Or perhaps these people are so unsure about their own sexuality that a simple handshake or tap on the shoulder could tip them over the edge
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Sander Rossel wrote: Like every homosexual is a rapist that's into you.
You might want to rephrase that ... 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I had to read that twice 
So... "that's interested in having sexual intercourse with you"
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super wrote: our daily meeting
Ahh, I like standup comedy.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Technically, blaming the blamers is also blaming. 
What's so wrong about finger pointing, apart from not being politically correct ? If error culture is established, there is no problem in telling X or Y made a mistake. I am not pissed if someone says I f***ed up, when I f*** up.
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That's my point. I would like to know if there is problem and how it was caused and can be rectified.
This silliness sometimes is just too much drama in workplace. For my daily drama I do have my Mrs
cheers,
Super
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With all due respect I'm about to disrespect you so much that 3 generations of your family will get personally offended.
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super wrote: I don't want to finger point
Similar to,
I am not going to lie (insert some c***).
In fact (insert something that isn't).
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Nah, that's different. I do believe those people, but I am appalled to learn they have been lying all these time until now!   
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Everything I say is a lie. Always. No exceptions.
(Goodbye HAL, Skynet, M5 and any other evil AI if you try to resolve that.)
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Are you from Crete?
They say that behind every paradox lies a Cretan.
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No, but I have been there a few times to launch some missiles and had big parties afterwards. Maybe I got infected during one of these visits.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Makes perfect sense to me!
Fuzzy logic makes mince meat of that statement! 
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