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I agree with everything you wrote except the last paragraph. I despise everything about dot nyet.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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.NET is useful - it provides a huge library of classes that work in a consistent way, unlike the libraries you had to play with with C / C++, and reduces the memory leak problems endemic to pointer based code written by people who think they know what they are doing ... 
It's a tool - and one that works across multiple platforms with a high degree of "similarity". Try that with a native C compiler, and it becomes a struggle to get anything to work in a short timeframe.
Don't get me wrong, I miss my assembler days (or decades more accurately) - but .NET is here to stay and I'm happy using it.
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OriginalGriff wrote: and reduces the memory leak problems endemic to pointer based code written by people who think they know what they are doing ...
In other words: .Net is for those who don't know what they are doing. Excellent argument. 
OriginalGriff wrote: It's a tool - and one that works across multiple platforms with a high degree of "similarity". Try that with a native C compiler, and it becomes a struggle to get anything to work in a short timeframe.
Have been trying that in the last days. It's not as bad as you think anymore.
OriginalGriff wrote: Don't get me wrong, I miss my assembler days (or decades more accurately) - but .NET is here to stay and I'm happy using it
In other words: You have become too comfortable and now you finally love the Big Brother.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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"but .NET is here to stay and I'm happy using it."
I can happily say I hardly ever used .NET. As an embedded developer (now retired), .NET and C# were never options for the projects I worked on. Heck, I think only one project in my career had more than a meg of RAM. For my projects it's been C/C++ for at least the last 15 years of my career.
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Rick York wrote: I despise everything about dot nyet.
I'm curious about why? Particularly since I have quite the opposite reaction.
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Just one word: Mickeysoft
.Net can never be so good that they get me to marry them and then let them move in and do whatever they like.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: just one word: Mickeysoft
Subjective religious reasons, then. Any objective reasons?
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OriginalGriff wrote: Some languages - like C# - are strongly typed for a reason: to catch errors early.
I found going from Object Pascall (Delphi) to C# was pretty easy, since they are both strongly typed. Of course going from ALGOL to PASCAl was also fairly easy, but going from FORTRAN to ALGOL was painful.
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I also have had to fix problems such as the MM-DD-YY problem you described.
Strong typing often causes as many problems as weak typing because people want to find a solution for their problem. I'm thinking along the lines of a "definable" strong type conversions. Using arithmetric conversions such as integer to character, I would simply like to say "string S = i" having previously declared "i" as an integer. Then, add optional meta-data such as format.
Regarding pointers, C++ pointers has made debugging difficult. And having to cast causes even more confusion. I'm thinking the majority of pointer and casting problems are caused as a result of less experienced or lazy developers trying to find a quick, workable (in most cases) solution to their problem.
I'm just wondering if there isn't perhaps a better solution.
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I disagree - they are a different type of problem. String typing reduces problems that can be located at compile time, while your weak typing problem is because the developer hasn't thought about the code sufficiently. If that forces him to look at what he's doing instead of assuming that the compiler will do the right thing, then that improves the code and reduces the chances of bad data.
You make typing mistakes, I make them - we all do. The more that the compiler can pick up instead of assuming that it's correct and blindly converting the wrong data the better, no?
string s = id; bad if you actually meant to do this:
string s = IansName;
Why is it such a problem for you to spell out what you want the compiler to do?
Adding formatting defaults and suchlike makes it more confusing if the developer doesn't realise what format is being used ... which is why you get dd/MM/yy and MM/dd/yy confusion because different users use different defaults!
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What I want is for my local 5-Guys burger joint to stop burning the bacon on my double-bacon cheeseburgers.
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I concur - but I skip the cheese part.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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...All I Want[^]
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OMG!! Pass the mind-bleach!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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OK - Mind Bleach[^]
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I knew what is was going to be and yet I still went there!
You b&^$@$*&! 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Took your mind off of Melissa Lynn tho' ...
My work here is done. 
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...All That She Wants[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Agreed, and also skip the burger part.
What's wrong with a plain bacon sandwich?
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My local one gets it perfectly crispy without burning it. 
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rjmoses wrote: I do a lot of development, migrating, porting, etc., in different environments, different systems, different languages, different versions,....get the idea? I have specialized over the years in doing weird stuff.
Good! I got a PHD by asking questions about things that everyone else assumed, so that seemed weird at the time, but I was right to question the assumptions, it turns out they were wrong.
The weird problems are the most interesting.
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Never neglect the "trivial" roots of an equation.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Weird problems are the most fun, most satisfying, but usually take more time than the budget allows.
Result: People take shortcuts because somebody is crawling all over them to "get the job done".
I, like many people, am inherently lazy. But I work very hard at being lazy efficiently. I do not like solving the same problems over and over. I do like solving a problem--once! The second and subsequent times are a waste of my time.
I will never, ever, buy a self-driving car with the current state of software development.
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My ex-wife has a big endian.
A REALLY big endian.
In fact, it's so big, she counteracts the effect of the moon on local tide tables.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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When she sits around the house, she sits aaa-rrrr-ooo-uuuu-nnnn-dddd the house.
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