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megaadam wrote: But what about all the DONTS?
That's what your employment contract is for.
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Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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After that, there are the WILLs and WONTs ... we're talking about TELNET, right?
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...She said: "It's in the large print section!"
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- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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haha?
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I learn something new, every day.
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645.5*
* Dewey Decimal Classification 645.5: Household Furnishings / Lighting Fixtures
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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Fight complaint unknown cover (8)
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Fight WAR
complaint RANT
unknown Y cover
WARRANTY
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You always solve these when I blink!
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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Stop.
Blinking.
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You do like to win on Friday
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Oh elephant! It's Friday already? What happened to the week?
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SO we have all read specs, documents that define data packets, full of flags and things, that describe complex behaviour, subtle things, clever things.
And have you ever looked at code, or products that supposedly implement the spec, and arent all these complex, fiddly little values, all set to 0, or some default, or ignored completely, and just the basics of the spec implemented?
I see it every single time I dig into this kind of thing.
I think it is because the spec writers want to make it complete, and because of their depth of knowledge, understand what they are thinking.
The poor sod who has to write code hasn't got ten years to devote to studying the technology, he has to write code that works, and has a month to do it.
So he just says 'f*** it, ignore that, zero will do here, thats enough' and hey presto, it works well enough to sell.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: SO we have all read specs, documents that define data packets, full of flags and things, that describe complex behaviour, subtle things, clever things. SO not all of get any specs to begin with. If you are not a psychic or at least know what to do when someone who is utterly incapable of thinking up specs handwaves the whole thing onto your desk, then get lost.
My sadistic way of punishing them for that was to do whatever I wanted and when they came to complain, I just asked them which one of their specifications was not met.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I am not talking about 'vague requests from management' but about those complex specs that come from organisations like USB, 3GPP, RTCM and so on. Specs where there is too MUCH detail.
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There is no such thing as too much detail. You can't possibly know what someone will be looking for. The real problem is keeping the documentation and its subject in sync, both ways.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Are you completely missing the point of what I wrote on purpose?
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No, not at all. Have you never had the situation that someone else was documenting according to specifications while you were struggling to get the whole thing to work and meet the deadline?
The guy who writes the code does not cut corners because he feels like it. It's the usual case of having something that works reasonably well until the deadline is reached. No time to inform the guy who writes the documentation.
The writer also is busy enough to write down all that stuff in a clear and complete way. He does not want to change too much, as he always got enough left to write about. He just sticks to the specs and probably is not even aware of the changes that have accumulated.
After the deadline both move on to their next assignments and never get the time to clean up. A few versions down the line the documentation will differ from the implementation in many places, but have you ever heard a boss say that the documentation needs to be redone?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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No, and this is a different situation because I am talking about a programmer being either lazy or incapable of understanding a complex specification.
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Yes, but I doubt that in most cases. Most of the time I think it's unintentional and not malice.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Malice?
No, that isnt the definition of malice, this is about a spec being over the top, overkill, and the developer not wanting to understand it.
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Undermining the team's work and its results is not malicious? There has been a time when I did not rip someone's head off when he was not able to complete a job and needed assistance, at least as long as he spoke up. For secretly doing his own thing I would have had him hanging by his (censored).
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
modified 7-Sep-18 6:34am.
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Malice is intentional. If it were he would be sacked immediately!
Stupidity cant be helped though.
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