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DRHuff wrote: Why would they need to do that. I don't hear the atheists insisting on working on Christmas and Easter so the Republicans probably will just enjoy the day off while they drink themselves silly and continue to forget their history. 
Cause Strayans won't give up a perfectly good, paid to have off day of no work for no-one.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Hi All,
The project I am working on appears to be a cluster ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) in potential. The software group are busy in their ivory tower talking about recipes, the Hardware group in theirs ivory tower designing something, the drawing office yup you guessed it. I am in the test dept and am supposed to write tests for the 'thing' but until Software talk to Hardware (I can see problems, as software are seeming to use a processor with not enough pins to meet spec version A). The specification has been updated but not written as those who can will not sign off on it until they actually have something to sign, no one can get anyone to agree on anything! Ahhh I'm in Dilbert Heck!! 
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Quote: I can see problems, as software are seeming to use a processor with not enough pins to meet spec version A
Shouldn't the actual processor be a hardware group's choice?
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Well thats what I would thought, however new guy, on a new project you don't want to rock the boat...
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... and then you end up with a BGA only processor on a single sided PTH PCB ... 
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With software group approval, yes.
You need to know that the processor has languages / compilers / libraries for what the software bods are going to do with it.
I'm OK with software requesting a processor family, and maybe a minimum spec, but hardware have to integrate it with all the other doodads to make the thing work (and know what packages they can cope with), so they will select the actual processor.
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Hmmm, I agree with what you said, however your signature now has the line Quote: Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
how have manged to get that beastie on the net??
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No, I just got fed up with idiotic emails "sent from my iPhone"/"sent from my iPad" so I thought I'd show 'em all you need. My old 6140 did connect to the interwebs, but rather slowly ...
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Having messed with Amstrad PCs they probably used a standard modem with a weird interface, many hours wondering where the keyboard connector was...
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glennPattonWork wrote: how have manged to get that beastie on the net??
Perhaps he stole my bit banged RS232 code, which now runs at 2400 baud. All tries to raise the clock frequency and go up to 9600 baud have failed, but that may be an issue of the emulator.
Still, he might have done just that with a 8086 processor or better.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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8MHz processor!
640KB RAM!
Twin 5 1/4 floppy drives!
EGA Graphics - 640x350 with 16 whole colours!
Power supply built into the monitor!
Non-standard connectors!
Cheap as reasonably priced fried potatoes.
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You know I like it when the old boxes still prove themselves to be useful.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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"Take the farking board and program it!"
That is what the HW guy tells me all the time.
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I am afraid that was the attitude of the previous software guy. Hardware did throw their toys and changes were made...
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Hey man, that's not my attitude! 
It is... 'company organization' 
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And he is right. Use an emulator until the hardware is ready and then go for it.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Emulator, of what, I could run the code as I am doing in a V.M. with no idea of what the hardware is doing...
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A configurable emulator of the processor they will be using. It may also be safe to assume that there will be some memory. Enough to start developing and then you add to and improve the configuration as the specs come rolling in. Of course that's all just gray theory if you don't have any emulator at all.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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It seems you lack a proper manager. Been there, done that, would be still doing that if I wasn't prone to take risks.
GCS d-- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Sooo - Monday?
And this deserves a post in the Lounge??? 
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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So I ask of your experience - if any...
Moving from TFS to Git...
Tips and tricks?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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Have no fear!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Tips and tricks?
Don't do it. 
Keep your friends close. Keep Kill your enemies closer.
The End
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Can you elaborate on that my friend Giskard?
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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