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In this case the dev is not junior just does not know how to say no! I on the other hand have no compunction telling the user the requirements are really silly. However I asked the dev to tell the user and made sure he did.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I'm just trying to picture the error message:
"Unable to process because you have used our carefully selected option defaults - please use some other values instead and we'll try again."
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Nope, can't see it how do you tell a user that the defaults we have supplied are not acceptable, without looking like a complete idiot.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Hopefully you're using a cool pivot grid control, say from DevExpress. While I use DevExpress exclusively for WinForm development, I am continually impressed with how flexible their grid controls are. I imagine their WPF controls are equally good.
That is, once I figure out where and how to actually set various options and overrides!
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We use Telerik and yes they have a pivot grid but I have never actually spent the time to decipher the configuration requirements for it. I also tend to use a treelistview as my secondary grid tool backed by a specific model based on the UI requirements rather that the database.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Hi,
Your sound card problem has nothing to do with Windows 10 or PNP. The problem is that MSI and other third-party vendors do not provide perpetual device driver support. In other words... your MSI (rebranded) Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 does not have a device driver for Windows 10.
There are some unofficial device drivers available if your card is using the Audigy 10k1 or 10k2 DSP. I've been using the sound blaster device driver written by Eugene Gavrilov for nearly a decade on some of my older workstations. I'm not sure the Kx driver will work with your card... I believe your card may be using the 20k1 DSP chipset.
kX Audio Driver[^]
I highly recommend avoiding rebranded hardware... while MSI no longer writes device drivers for your hardware... the Creative Technology[^] version has maintained Windows 10 drivers and it just reached EOL back in Q4 2015.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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In some cases, the major difference between the own-brand and the rebranded version is the PCI Vendor and device IDs. I assume that your MSI sound-blaster card is listed as an "unknown device"; if so, you might be able to extract the PCI vendor and device IDs from the device's properties, and modify the INF file of the own brand to recognize your device.
The problem with this is that you lose any additional functionality that MSI may have placed on their boards. If MSI's board provides a subset of the Sound Blaster's capabilities, it may not work at all. Use at your own risk!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: I assume that your MSI sound-blaster card is listed as an "unknown device"
I don't own any MSI devices. Did you mean to respond to the original poster?
Daniel Pfeffer wrote: you might be able to extract the PCI vendor and device IDs from the device's properties, and modify the INF file of the own brand to recognize your device
That old technique does not always work. This technique will not work if the driver is part of a digitally-signed catalog[^]. Moving forward you can expect that Microsoft Windows may require all audio drivers to be WHQL signed[^] because of DRM requirements[^].
Daniel Pfeffer wrote: If MSI's board provides a subset of the Sound Blaster's capabilities, it may not work at all. Use at your own risk!
I believe that Creative Technology began checking the PCI vendor ID over a decade ago in their audio drivers. Note that I may be wrong... as I have not stepped through the driver in WinDbg in a very very long time.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Yes, I meant to respond to the OP. 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Install the drivers (at least, if not the extra software too) and see if it gets detected after that.
My X-Fi worked just fine in the W10 (for values of fine).
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Thanks for the input! 
GenJerDan wrote: My X-Fi worked just fine in the W10 (for values of fine).
Well, that's the thing...the card in question is working fine in the older W10 system. When time allows, I'll bring it back up and check what drivers it's using...as far as I remember, I didn't have to install anything originally for it to work from a fresh install of W10.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Read the rules at the top. There is a forum for this.
(The rules apply to everyone, not just newcomers. )
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Have you been to the hardware/devices forum? The last post was 2 months ago...nobody would see a post there...and it's certainly not a programming question.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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If it came with the mobo I suspect it probably is locked to it, although in the past when I've seen that done they'd generally do something weird (eg the card and its slot used a backwards PCIe connector) so you couldn't actually plug it into anyone else's board.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Thanks for the response!
Dan Neely wrote: If it came with the mobo I suspect it probably is locked to it,
I'm thinking this may be the case which is why I went shopping locally for a new one...the local chains have all quit keeping them in stock...plenty of video cards but not one sound card! 
If indeed that is the case, it's the first time I've encountered a plug-in component for a specific mobo maker.
I suppose I'll have to order one online, or hit one of he specialty shops around town. Of course, there is still the possibility that there is a problem with the slot but I have no way of knowing without spending a little change...and waiting.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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After stealing recipes from The Kitchen King[^], most enjoyably the gulyas[^] (and do garnish with the cream as suggested!), I've now tried tasted a recipe as suggested[^] by MunchiessMatt.
First, it looked cool and relaxed when it was made; there's not a lot of stirring going on once it is in the pot. If you're Dutch and looking for the galangal, you can order it online here[^]. Kaffir leaves can be ordered here[^]. There's some safety-warnings in the video that Matt linked to, be sure to heed them.
It was delicious. We had some Turkish bread as a side instead of rice, which was great to mop up all those juices 
If you haven't tried the drowned chicken or the gulyas then be sure to give it a try on a slow sunday. Getting the herbs is the hardest part, but I'm pretty sure I'll be making this again. If anyone else has a recipe to share, I'll try them all. At least those containing ingredients that can be legally obtained
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Why did the chicken cross the road ?
To get drowned.
Chicken life sucks.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: Chicken life sucks.
Compared to what? Fowl in the wild?
Chicken life is without natural predators, in a relative safe environment. The only thing chickens need fear, are vegans
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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My favourite dish is swedish lamb - Google Search[^], not sure which variation is best as the wife has been making it for decades from a recipe she snaffled from somewhere.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Cool, and thanks; cooking lamb with coffee is not something that I heard before, so definitely going to try it
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Yeah coffee cream carrots onions blend till it looks like baby shot and purr it over the lamb
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Haha, an entire recipe in one sentence 
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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With anchovies, garlic and rosmary?
THats a classic french version, but there are a lot of different recipes for sweedish lamb, so which is genuine!
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The one my wife cooks, don't give a rat's which is genuine.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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