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For about a month now, Chrome has been crashing on me with "Aw. snap" screens on random pages at will.
I have not used FF in over 2 year's now as a personal browser. Might be taking a look now. 
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Have you tried a decent browser?
Something that is safe, regardless of the ads served? Something operated by keyboard-shortcuts, instead of a mouse?
Lynx remains the ultimate; IIRC, you already aknowledged that CP registers these browsers. How about you giving us some insight on the browsers used, as well as average screen-resolutions?
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Very interesting on two accounts:
1) I've recently tried the new FireFox and thought it was quite good too. I was able to post articles to CP using it with no addt'l challenges.
Chris Maunder wrote: you used up all my RAM and then kept crashing
2) I keep thinking this is related to PWAs (Progressive Web Apps) and Service Workers. I've been really nervous about them. Sometimes I go to a valid site and suddenly my CPU just starts going crazy. PWA / Service Workers are so new I was trying to figure out how to determine if someone is mining bitcoins on my machine.
I found this for Chrome:
chrome://serviceworker-internals/
it will display all the service workers and their current state. 
Now we need that for firefox. (hint, anyone?, anyone?)
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Just tried it and it looks good to me. Seems to list them and their state.
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raddevus wrote: I found this for Chrome:
chrome://serviceworker-internals/
Thanks for this!
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Think again! I'm not implying Chrome is any better
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Not as if you were using that RAM for anything else, so it was fair game.
Did you get you experience the free Mr Robot plugin that FF deployed with the update?
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You're right - if VS, Office or, say, Windows itself had needed that RAM it would have taken it already, right?
No Robot for me. I live in hope, though.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Except for the bits where you used up all my RAM and then kept crashing.
*khm*
(granted it was running for a few days, but seeing this more and more often after upgrading to FF57)
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I like and use Firefox, but I do not like the change form bookmarks to library and the extra step[ necessary to get to a full listing. I also use Chrome and Opera for various projects.
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For me it is te opposite, since FF 57, which is using the new multi-thread rendering in rusty, I get lots of crashes due to OOM. I switched to Chrome and the probem has gone.
I still prefer the rendering quality of FF (like fonts, gradients, etc) but getting OOM with only 4 tabs is really annoying.
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The quantum version is now my default browser simply because its
faster
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Same observation. (Runs in the background even when closed ... probably mining bitcoins).
Also, trashed Edge.
Edge will always (in our case) default to the "last site" (when it crashes); which in the case of a hosed / "end task" web site, means a "deadlock".
Couldn't find any reference to changing that default behaviour (before trashing it).
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Chris Maunder wrote: ..has inexplicably and suddenly become my new browser of choice
If true, that doesn't seem inexplicable.
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Been using FF for years. Chrome is my #2. IE and Edge are not in the equation.
Sometimes the true reward for completing a task is not the money, but instead the satisfaction of a job well done. But it's usually the money.
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Just stumbled upon this book, Making Games for the Atari 2600, Steven Hugg, eBook - Amazon.com[^], and read the first couple of chapters.
It's actually well written and really interesting if you're into hardware and electronics and understanding how computing actually works. Some really interesting info about the 6502 processor and what you can do.
Since I finally finished Petzold's (Code: The Hidden Language of Computers[^]) and started working with Arduino and building my own little projects, this stuff seems extremely interesting to me.
Have any of you read the Atari book?
modified 19-Dec-17 11:57am.
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raddevus wrote: Have any of you read the Atari book?
No, but I have fond memories of writing 6502 assembly for the Commodore PET, C64, and VIC20.
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Marc Clifton wrote: No, but I have fond memories of writing 6502 assembly for the Commodore PET, C64, and VIC20
Wow, that is very cool. Great experience. No wonder you have gone so far in your career and work.
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You could also have look at NASA Open Source Software used to program spaceships..
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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No, but I still write some stuff for the Atari 8 bit computers from time to time. I still have a few of them in the shelf.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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I hope it's the 800 and not the 400 with that membrane keyboard.
That thing was crazy impossible to type on. 
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One 400, two 600XL and one 800XL. Only my 130XE has died long ago.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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