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For the moment I'll ignore that he could get to 600m much more safely by climbing a hill/etc, I'll just note incontrovertible proof that the Earth isn't flat exists.
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Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well, actually I don't, but my wife wants one for a new business she's setting up and seems to think that in my capacity of being a 'computer person' I am suitably qualified to perform such a task, and thus have been instructed to do so. Ah yes, but I don't do web, I do .NET server side development.
So, in terms of function and services and databases and all that stuff I'm entirely comfortable, but when it comes to the 'cool' bit, the website and possible mobile app I get a bit lost. Someone told me (in the pub) that MVC 'was dead' and there's this new thing which you write in C# and it compiles it to JavaScript or something. Sounds filthy.
Is anyone able to suggest a way to go technology wise? Scale would be low, maybe a few hundred hits a day. I want to go completely bespoke, no CMS etc., and I wish to avoid anything requiring trendy haircuts like Python, Ruby, Java, etc. In other words something .NET ish which I can host on a server at home and not in the cloud.
Wisdom appreciated.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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That really depends on the scope of the website's purpose. If it's just to display information, then the task ahead is very simple and can be done with pure HTML and CSS running on your webserver of choice. Now, if your wife wants e-commerce or marketing capability, the whole thing gets a lot more complicated and it's better to hire a professional to build it.
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Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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hmm, making a website for the wife...
shouldn't be much harder than picking a new dress for her (or underwear if you're into danger) ...
I can only wish you the best.
Plan B: make something real ugly (or buy her a huge dress.)
Once the above exhausted point her at some young nephews / nieces / friends kids that have learned doing websites at school.
Installing Signature...
Do not switch off your computer.
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Yes, perilous isn't it? Thankfully, we've been married a while so I don't think she's got particularly high expectations.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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If she asks you, "Does this website make me look fat?", you already know the answer 
Seriously, I would pick some provider that offers some cookie cutter templates for various sites and slap something very very simple together.
Charlie Gilley
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Rob Philpott wrote: omeone told me (in the pub) that MVC 'was dead' and there's this new thing which you write in C# and it compiles it to JavaScript or something.
Really? MVC is dead? Personally, I would love it if I could write C# and compile it to Javascript, because that means I wouldn't have to write the javascript.
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There has been a compiler written for C# to JavaScript. I don't recall the name, but do some Googling and you'll find it. I even think there was a second one as well.
"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley
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SquareSpace
Seriously, if you don't need a CMS, SquareSpace or its ilk is the way to go. Mostly easy and fun to use, with occasional teeth gnashing.
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I don't know if I would use a service that calls itself squarespace, but has a giant black circle on their home page. It seems to me they won't get your requirements right.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Thanks Marc. Alas it looks like something that is banned here as I get some DNS error, usually a sign of trying to access something which isn't approved.
I will look tonight.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Seriously. Even WordPress would probably do if the site is little more than a pamphlet. Pretty sure it can do basic e-commerce if that's also needed.
Being developers, we tend to overthink these things, and--unless I had a reason to learn this stuff--sticking with these types of services should be plenty good.
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I'm no 'web person' either and it's not 100% clear to me what exactly you're asking for here but maybe NancyFx: Lightweight, low-ceremony, framework for building HTTP based services on .Net and Mono[^] is worth a look for you. I fiddled around with it a bit and it really is super easy to get started with it. Offers several hosting options including self-hosting. And it basically doesn't force you to do anything in any particular way but doesn't hinder you from doing MVC either if you so choose.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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As the computer person you should make a decision first: Buy, Build or mix.
Unless you want to dive into web-development and spend hours and hours to get something decent, get your wife an account on one of the many online website builders! A customer couldn't care less if you use Ruby, C# or godknowswhat multi-tier architecture! You have to get the UIX right from the beginning to hook people up! If it is looking great on a mobile device, even better (mobile first)! Believe me, this is a vast field in itself!
I definitely would go for buy and save yourself a lot of hassle and your wife has something running in no time. As it is for her business, time is probably a critical factor.
I have done the same for my wife and there is still enough "tech stuff" that you might have to support her. This gives you ample free time and your wife is happy. Happy wife, happy live!
Have fun and regards to your wife!
Rene
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modified 22-Nov-17 3:10am.
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There are numerous ways to build a website and personally I (now a retired techie) would suggest that WordPress is probably the way to go, it has hundreds of themes to choose from and modern themes will automatically handle mobiles tablets etc. There are numerous plugins for WordPress websites and most are free. Also, if you want to get into the nitty gritty and start custom coding you can.
The big mistake though is to believe that a computer literate techie can handle DESIGN. To design a website needs a different skillset. I have mostly used someone else to produce a design, layout, fonts, colour pallet etc and then I just implement the design. Otherwise, you end up spending hours having to randomly trying different colours, fonts etc to see what looks good.
As well as all this it is worth considering that, even if you have the most wonderful website in the world, it is worthless if no one is looking at it. You need to make sure that you start off on the right foot and consider the site's SEO and how you will market it right from the start.
Good luck.
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I think you friend at the pub is talking about WebAssembly, Don't think it's ready for the big league yet - bit of background from Hanselman...
Net and WebAssembly
MVC is not dead by any means, still going strong.
In the past for small projects I've purchased Bootstrap templates and customised to meet my needs, loads of sites out there, I've used these guys (see link below). Advantage of using bootstrap is if you follow the grid system you can get something that looks good and works well on a desktop browser and a mobile device.
WrapBootstrap
For logos etc I've used designer friends or online bidding sites for example...
99 Designs
If you are using it as a learning exercise then you could go down the route of using Asp.Net core, again you can use MVC etc.
Learning ASP.NET Core
There are a few frameworks out there for single page apps and seem popular in the freelance world. It's up to you if you want to learn them.
Angular
React
Vue
Alternatively, if you don't want to tinker just download a wordpress theme.
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Hi Rob,
I can surely help you in building the website using ASP.NET. Please add me on skype to discuss in detail. My id is "karmicksolutions".
Regards,
Debabrata
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Depending on the site requirements, WordPress may be a candidate. There are plugins for just about anything you need -- the good ones are easily configurable.
Before doing this, get a few books on WordPress, install a practice environment, and play with it. While it's easy to do simple things, it can get complex.
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Consider utilizing a social media platform, especially if the business will have a physical location.
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I'd take a look at Adobe Muse. Last I checked they offered a 30 day evaluation which should be plenty of time to develop a web site. As for hosting the web site I google web hosting, there should be plenty of low cost hosting sites. I'd not try hosting the site at home, you will find that the constant care and feeding of the host computer will be a pain. Much easier to have a cloud solution for hosting that provides backup and support.
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There are some applications (I use Serif Web Plus X8) check that out. If you're talking a web application (I. E. program) you're talking a whole different beast. I've fiddled around with developing applications on the web for years using ASP.Net and stuff like that but I haven't gotten really serious with it, I don't think I have the mental bandwidth any more that it would take to know 40 different frameworks, languages ... yadda, yadda. I still build primarily WinForms applications. Sounds like a web-page builder application (like I said, Serif or "Dream Weaver" or whatever they have nowadays) is your best bet.
-CM
If you think hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur! - Red Adair
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