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Marc Clifton wrote: ex-wife is "far friendlier."
I would expect a comment like this from an old WinForm programmer... In what reality??? 
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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I am so glad that I'm out of web dev for the moment...
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I just use straight javaScript. No frills. Just roll my own.
Try it - you'll like it.
Just think of it as craftsmanship vs. hobbyist.
As wood vs. particle board.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: I just use straight javaScript.
Amen to that! 
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Yeah, great idea...
Do all the DOM work manually.
If typing boilerplate code is what you'd like to spend waste your time on 
Besides, that isn't really managing your complexity, it's just adding more! (syncing events and all that).
Well, ok, I'm wasting it on some simple DatePicker, but I'm pretty sure "vanilla" JS has date issues too
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Sander Rossel wrote: Do all the DOM work manually.
You could say that about any type of coding.
You create little script libraries - purposed for whatever you need - and call them in your header, as needed.
So - you don't keep reinventing the wheel - you just do a really good job of it and keep reusing it - AND - since you made it yourself - you can modify it, derive from it, and all that neat stuff at your leisure.
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This is how frameworks arise. Reusable libraries (often opinionated) to accomplish things with less effort. So you are basically advocating framework usage, even if its your own in this instance. Perhaps you should document and release it, get it unit tested, open sourced and peer reviewed and then it might be up to standard with some of the other more modern frameworks that are already out there!
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dazinator wrote: Perhaps you should document and release it, get it unit tested, open sourced and peer reviewed and then it might be up to standard with some of the other more modern frameworks that are already out there!
It's mine - mine- all mine . . . and unlike the frameworks you appear to (implicitly) champion , they are totally obedient to my needs - always. Why would I want to become part of the problem, feeding the crowd of the ill equipped posting to Q&A ?
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See http://momentjs.com/docs/ for formatting codes.
Moment is now installed by default with the Angular 2 quickstart.
To use moment with Angular 2, you must do the following:
1. Add the following line to the top of any *.ts file that uses moment:
import * as moment from 'moment';
2. Add the following line to the map object of systemjs.config.js:
'moment': 'node_modules/moment/moment.js',
OR (using a predefined path in systemjs):
'moment': 'npm:moment/moment.js'
Example:
var d: string;
var m = moment(d);
if (m.isValid()) { return m.format("YYYY-MM-DD hh:mm a"); }
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Yeah, I know of Moment.js, great library!
The issue isn't so much with the date as it is with the input element and binding though
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...as is our custom.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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England did it quite a lot successfully.
But America didn't. They are more like power behind the throne kind of country, historically...
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Even though I don't play minecraft, it brings a tear of pride in my eyes.
Down with Herring!
Down with Herring!
Down with Herring!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Down with Herring!
It lox much worse than it tastes.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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What's an "American flag"?
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It is a striped thing that will leave stars in your eyes...
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Only wimps use dynamite. Doesn't Minecraft allow the use of nukes?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Does a monkey unlock a monastery?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That's nun of your concern.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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My French monastery, to be specific!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Maybe a religious monkey? That believe the Dead Programming Languages are superior in modern world?
Bryian Tan
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Bryian Tan wrote: Dead Programming Languages
They're not all dead; the deserving among them will one day be resurrected! 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Well, they are. Just look how slim their specs and manuals are.
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