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R. Giskard Reventlov10-Oct-17 5:10

R. Giskard Reventlov

10-Oct-17 5:10

Hey! it's bright and shiney and new - don't need any other reason to use it! Smile | :)

Slacker0079-Oct-17 11:40

Slacker007

9-Oct-17 11:40

The latest build of C#. VS 2017.

Jeremy Falcon9-Oct-17 14:18

Jeremy Falcon

9-Oct-17 14:18

Marc Clifton wrote:
'ing archaic.

A new emoji! OMG | :OMG:

Jeremy Falcon

GKP19929-Oct-17 17:52

GKP1992

9-Oct-17 17:52

It's a few weeks old now. Can't believe you did not notice.

I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.

Jeremy Falcon9-Oct-17 18:32

Jeremy Falcon

9-Oct-17 18:32

Been here off and on. A new icon looks good on CP. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Jeremy Falcon

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 4:56

13-Oct-17 4:56

Jeremy Falcon wrote:
A new emoji!

Enjoying the Sunshine | [little ray of sunshine]

too much?

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Jeremy Falcon13-Oct-17 5:00

Jeremy Falcon

13-Oct-17 5:00

Hah. Actually yeah. As I get older I realized living too much behind a computer makes your life worse not better. Well, that and I'm looking for a job... again. Because my last contract crapped out. So when in job hunt mode I tend not to do stuff like visit CP.

I like the Sunshine | [little ray of sunshine]

Jeremy Falcon

Brady Kelly9-Oct-17 21:14

Brady Kelly

9-Oct-17 21:14

I freelance, so I'm using 7.1 Smile | :)

"'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself."
—Aleister Crowley

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 4:57

13-Oct-17 4:57

Brady Kelly wrote:
I freelance, so I'm using 7.1

Aye, as do I with my side-freelance projects. Smile | :)

BillWoodruff9-Oct-17 22:05

BillWoodruff

9-Oct-17 22:05

2017/7

I like the ValueTuple struct facility, and am enjoying exploring the other features the way a one-eyed cat looks in a seafood store :

«While I complain of being able to see only a shadow of the past, I may be insensitive to reality as it is now, since I'm not at a stage of development where I'm capable of seeing it. A few hundred years later another traveler despairing as myself, may mourn the disappearance of what I may have seen, but failed to see.» Claude Levi-Strauss (Tristes Tropiques, 1955)

Mario Z9-Oct-17 23:03

Mario Z

9-Oct-17 23:03

You think you have it rough, try using C# 7 while your projects target .NET Framework 2.0 or 3.0 ...

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 4:58

13-Oct-17 4:58

Mario Z wrote:
You think you have it rough, try using C# 7 while your projects target .NET Framework 2.0 or 3.0 ...

Ugh.

Steve Naidamast10-Oct-17 5:11

Steve Naidamast

10-Oct-17 5:11

I am still using the version of C# that is installed with Visual Studio 2015/SP3 for my military simulation development.

For all intents and purposes, whether it is for business, game development, serious simulations, or scientifics, and internals, there is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out. Most new features are either different ways of doing the same things that were being done previously or some fine-tuned optimizations, few of which will be really noticeable.

That being said, if a new version of C# is released with a feature that is sorely needed for a specific requirement than an upgrade should be considered.

Other than that, upgrading simply allows the developer to say he or she is using the latest version...

Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 5:00

13-Oct-17 5:00

Steve Naidamast wrote:
here is nothing really critically important in any of the new C# versions coming out.

Well, I'm noticing some open source projects that specifically target C# 7, like MoreLinq, though I suppose NuGet would resolve that, but I like to be able to build the latest OS code.

Steve Naidamast wrote:
or my military simulation development

Then again, the military probably frowns on using open source packages?

Steve Naidamast13-Oct-17 5:25

Steve Naidamast

13-Oct-17 5:25

Marc:

The new projects you mention that are targeting a specific C# platform are actually targeting that version of the .NET Framework that has that level of C#, since they are one and the same.

As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...

Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 6:42

13-Oct-17 6:42

Steve Naidamast wrote:
As a result, you would have to install that version of the .NET Framework for the version of C# you are looking for...

Yes, that thought occurred to me as I was driving to the grocery store. Smile | :)

Steve Naidamast13-Oct-17 7:46

Steve Naidamast

13-Oct-17 7:46

HOWEVER, if you have Visual Studio installed, BE VERY CAREFUL how you upgrade the .NET Framework. You must use an update specific for the Visual Studio version you are using or you could have serious issues with the IDE.

I learned this the hard way... Frown | :(

Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com

zezba900010-Oct-17 10:59

zezba9000

10-Oct-17 10:59

We use C# 7.

Member 1135403410-Oct-17 11:36

Member 11354034

10-Oct-17 11:36

What about security?

Where I am working, we absolutely need to keep up with the latest versions of the .NET runtime and JVM because of security issues in older versions (yes, and patch the newer versions).

I am currently working with VS 2015 update 3 but will move to 2017 as the software engineering organization moves to it.

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 5:01

13-Oct-17 5:01

Member 11354034 wrote:
What about security?

The IT department hasn't a clue. Oh sure, things are "secured" all over the place, requiring hoops to get access to a particular database or internal website. But that's about the extent of it.

I'll have to add that to the "why we should upgrade the build server" reasons. Thanks!

RandyBuchholz10-Oct-17 12:35

RandyBuchholz

10-Oct-17 12:35

C# 7.1. But I'm doing a "staff upgrade" on myself. The thing about new language features is not so much what one feature can add, but how together they change the way you code and think about solutions.

Marc Clifton13-Oct-17 5:02