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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Consolas is filth
That one made me LOL!! Strong reaction to a font. This is how technology affects us. 
There are raster fonts to choose from. 
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Yes, I use Raster Fonts 7x12.
Of course, I'm sure Microsoft can mess even those up.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Microsoft can mess even those up
Microsoft is quite amazing at messing up anything. 
An aside: Today I was watching an old (2010) Ted talk where this guy was introducing all this stuff that Maps were going to link in and everything was going crazy about the functionality.
Blaise Agüera y Arcas: Augmented-reality maps | TED Talk[^]
Only 3 minutes long or so.
Then I noticed, this was a Microsoft guy.
Then I thought, wait, why haven't we heard of this fantastic tech that was going to push Microsoft maps to the top?
Everyone I know uses Google Maps (and some of course use apple maps).
So, why don't we know about this stuff that caused the crowd that day to give a standing Ovation?
Answer (you probably guessed it too)
All because Microsoft didn't have a hardware platform (phone) that would make the stuff ubiquitous as Google and Apple have.
Big fail!
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As soon as I read that title, I knew what it meant.
I'm guessing this is tech people pushing ideas that are supposedly cutting edge but are actually just stupid functionality that real users don't want anyways.
I will read those articles because I feel like that all the time.
I recently talked asked coworkers, "Why wasn't Windows 7 just good enough? It did everything I needed and worked with hardware and everything was great? Why learn 8 and especially 10? "
The answer, we all know, is that it was good enough.
However, product companies cannot say that and have to keep causing people to upgrade.
Just like styles.
Oak cabinets were great in the 80s and white cabinets were out (here in US).
Now it's the opposite? Why? Because cabinetmakers need to sell more cabinets and replace perfectly functioning cabinets. 
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Are you running the pre-release evaluation version of Creator's Update? I am running it - latest version 170721-2122 - and I use Consolas extensively. Haven't noticed anything screwy about it yet.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I believe I'm running full-on Creators update.
It is Version 1703
Build 15063.540
productid 00326-10000-00000-AA839
Whatever that all means. 
Also, the screwy thing is that it was just that initial run of the console window, after I set it specifically I no longer saw the problem any more.
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I don't know if windows 10 the default was already changed, but in Win 7 is...
console settings[^]
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Thanks,
I thought it was that it had chosen some other default too, but when I initially checked it was _supposedly_ set on Consolas 12.
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You are welcome
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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raddevus wrote: ...but I was curious what font it was originally set to...
My Windows 10 machine is using Consolas 16.
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Too big, waste of real estate. ![Badger | [badger,badger,badger,badger...]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/badger.gif)
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Thanks, I thought it defaulted to a Consolas font also and mine seemed to set to Consolas 12 so I thought it should've rendered properly.
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Hi,
There are some security improvements to Windows 10 (Creators Update) surrounding how the operating system handles font installation, rendering and font-trust. Looks like you possibly discovered an edge case that may occur when the console is launched and the old font is removed. This may have occurred because of stale font cache[^] following your system update.
It is extremely difficult to harden the win32k GDI subsystem... especially surrounding font rendering. There are a lot of changes to the operating system surrounding fonts.
[^]
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Thanks for replying with a specific idea that may have created the problem.
I'm always interested in the root cause for what made these things happen.
I'm curious how you knew that specific issue.
Are you still working with Microsoft?
Or are you just basing it past experience from your work there?
Just curious. Thanks again.
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You can always use full screen mode. After launching cmd, press Alt-Enter to switch between window and full screen. It still uses whatever font you have selected (or MS have substituted), but it upsets people passing by.
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jsc42 wrote: You can always use full screen mode.
That is interesting, but I've never been a full-screener. I like to have a plethora of windows open and viewable.
jsc42 wrote: it upsets people passing by.
Well, at least there is a benefit.
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Hello all,
Now I'm working with a couple of old 24" monitors (HP LP2465[^]).
I like their options of switching input as sometimes I need to connect multiple devices to them.
But now I'm thinking on changing them.
I'm using a docking station with my laptop and I have HDMI, DVI, VGA and DP available.
Reasons for changing the current monitors:
- My laptop has a resolution of 1920x1080 and those monitors have a resolution of 1920x1200 which can be a problem when going from the monitors to the laptop with the mouse cursor as it can get stuck in the monitor.
- The consumption of those two monitors is <110watts (maximum).
- I hate the base they have as my mouse cable always hit it and prevents me from reaching the top of the display (stupid thing I know).
- They are very big and therefore I'm forced to move my head too much sideways, going to a smaller monitor would save some table space.
- They have a lot of plastic around so the image is separated even when they are together.
- The text looks worse in those two old displays than how it looks in my laptop.
Which monitor would you recommend to program?
What do you think of the ThinkVision T22i-10 monitor[^] (it is a little bit smaller, 1920x1080, all the connections needed, has no bezels, led backlit, consumes 55W (maximum), IPS panel).
And a last question:
Do you use those supports that get bolt on the table and that use the VESA 100 connection to the display that allow the displays to float on the table?
It looks interesting as it frees the table from the monitors base and therefore you have more space for everything, but never used them and I don't know if they have any drawback. Any experience with that?
Thank you very much!
modified 12-Aug-17 9:47am.
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I haven't tried that monitor, but I have two 22" both of which are mounted to the wall using swinging brackets (which helps a lot if you need to get behind the monitor): VonHaus 13-27" Tilt & Swivel TV Wall Mount Bracket with Ultra Slim Design for LED, LCD, 3D, Curved, Plasma, Flat Screen Televisions - Strong 15kg Weight Capacity: Amazon.co.uk: TV[^]. I prefer this to the stand that comes with the monitor: they are a PITA as they stick out ahead and behind the monitor, and limit the range of heights you can get. Plus, with swinging mounts you can rotate the display through 90 degrees - I have one hung portrait (great for manuals, documents, internet) and one landscape (great for Visual Studio).
The mouse cable problem is simple: get a trackball. They never run out of mouse mat, cable or anything, simply because they don't move...
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Can you believe I've never tried a trackball?
Of course this solves the issue... 
I can understand the arm holder... I've never thought of that before, but it seems a good option to declutter the table and to have both monitors perfectly aligned.
And yes, probably 22" or smaller monitors are better when programming. too wide monitors reduce the comfort.
Thank you for your post OG!
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Glad to help!
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