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Richard Deeming wrote: So how do you think that's saying anything other than "women can't be doctors"? 
It's making a joke about the NAME of a FICTIONAL show. It says nothing about what women can or can't do. It's you who are projecting your own insecurities and assumptions into it. Sheesh, the character played isn't even a real medical doctor, doesn't even have a Ph.D. from a university, so also not a doctor in that sense. It's just a name of a character and a show where the word Doctor has no meaning whatsoever.
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No, I'm taking you to task for your aberrant injecting of false meaning to what is being said.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: It says nothing about what women can or can't do.
The suggestion that the name of the show has to be changed to "Nurse Who" because the protagonist is now a woman is very clearly a suggestion that women can't be doctors. The fact that you can't see or understand that is rather disturbing.
It might seem like a "joke" to you, but I doubt it's even remotely funny to the women who have to listen to such "jokes" and other casual sexism every single day.
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I understand how YOU can take it that way, but any reasonable person would see it as a joke about the SHOW not about women in general. So, no it's not "very clearly" a suggestion that woman can't be doctors. The show isn't even about a medical doctor. The "Dr." in "Dr. Who" is a title, a name, a meaningless word. The entire show is a joke.
Richard Deeming wrote: sexism
It's not sexism. You are making something of it that isn't there. You are the discriminator here.
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Richard Deeming wrote: So if someone made that "joke" when Peter Capaldi was introduced as the next Doctor, you'd still think it was just as funny?
No, it'd be even more funny.
Richard Deeming wrote: Because it's a "joke" that depends on the gender of the main character.
No, it doesn't men are nurses and have been for decades.
Richard Deeming wrote: but the "joke" is.
So says you. You are the one making it about women. Not the OP.
Richard Deeming wrote: I'm discriminating against you for not letting you get away with discriminating against other people?!
LMAO. I didn't make the joke so no I'm not discriminating. You are the one reading your warped view into things and assuming warped things. So, yes you are the one discriminating.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: No, it'd be even more funny.
Really? Then why didn't anyone make the joke before yesterday? 
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Beats me. Maybe someone did and you just missed it.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: Maybe someone did and you just missed it.
Tricky to search for it, but the only relevant references to "Nurse Who" that Google seems to be able to find started yesterday.
But I think you knew that already. 
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Richard Deeming wrote: Google seems to be able to find started yesterday
OOOOOO, and we just know if it's not on Google, it doesn't exist. 
Richard Deeming wrote: But I think you knew that already.
Actually, no. I don't make assumptions like you seem to do.
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: I don't make assumptions like you seem to do.
No, you just post ad-hominem attacks on unrelated threads, where you think I won't see them.
You are a troll, and this conversation is over. 
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Richard Deeming wrote: this conversation is over
Good. Run away, run away little one.
Another aberrant liberal who can't stand when someone disagrees with them and defends well their POV.
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Hence the joke icon. 
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Yes, I noticed the joke icon. Still doesn't make it "funny" to suggest that women can't be doctors.
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And he didn't do that.
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Answered above.
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replied above
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If I was suggesting that, I wouldn't use the joke icon.
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So using the "joke" icon makes it OK to say whatever you want?
I'm not saying there are topics that you can't joke about. I'm just saying you should be prepared to receive criticism if you make a joke that's in bad taste, or a joke that makes you look prejudiced.
There's a reason we don't see many women on this site any more, and the "banter-with-the-lads" casual sexism is probably something to do with it.
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Everybody gets offended by something. Shall we go back to knock, knock jokes or will that offend the deaf?
modified 18-Jul-17 8:00am.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: will that offend the deaf?
Who cares - they can't hear you!
There's a difference between making an offensive joke, and making a joke that relies on, and reinforces, negative stereotypes about particular groups.
If they'd announced that the new Doctor would be played by a Muslim actor, and somebody posted a "joke" about that causing the ratings to "blow up", would you think that was acceptable?
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I'm not Muslim. I have been offended by a few jokes here, but I take them with a grain of salt. It's people's actions that I care about, not their reactions.
Like I said, you find some things offensive, but other things you don't. To each his own.
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: I'm not Muslim.
That doesn't mean you can't be annoyed/angry/upset when someone starts using "jokes" to spread negative stereotypes about them.
You don't have to be a member of a group to believe they should be treated as fellow human beings. 
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Again, I already said that I was upset by some of the jokes here and some of which pertained to Muslims. So, yes, I can be upset. However, I take it with a grain of salt because posting a joke does not tell me anything about the poster. The posts that annoy me are the discussions that go on and on telling me what they thing (is right) and how I should think. Kind of like the thread that we have.
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There you go again, making assumptions about someone. You assume you just know everything based on what? Someone's name or origin? You racist pig!
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