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We shall not discuss SONDEX.
There is, however, ≈ would work. Everyone gets to buy a new keyboard!
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Argh. But, maybe it bears repeating? (just a BS excuse for a repost). I looked at the insider news - but not far enough back as I saw the article posted/featured today on Yahoo!.
Maybe the first one was fake?
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Blame Canada.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Indeed![^]
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... but what would Brian Boitano do?[^]
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Google/Bing/DDG/etc are Internet indexers.
If something is on the Internet, it gets indexed. Oh well.
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Maybe we should just let one of our states, like North Dakota, invade and conquer Canada! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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What a fanciful idea.
Fanciful because I've seen it proven unequivocally that there is no North Dakota.
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I think the basic premise is along the lines of being an accomplice because Google has been made aware that the vendor is selling counterfeit goods. The vendor fled the jurisdiction and it selling from an undisclosed location.
Note: I said basic premise, not saying Google IS an accomplice.
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Firstly, is it only Google, or are they just the biggest pockets.
Secondly, easier than picking up shop and fleeing the jurisdiction is to simply remake your website somewhat and change the domain.
If the companies criminal - wouldn't it make sense to go after them? Contempt of court and all that? That is, unless the real aim is either to test the waters for taking over the internet and/or seeing how much revenue they can extract in fines.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: That is, unless the real aim is either to test the waters for taking over the internet and/or seeing how much revenue they can extract in fines.
There is a verb for that in pop culture - it's now referred to as "EC-ing".
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
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The case was brought by the company that manufactures the authentic items; they claimed the goods were counterfeit, went to court and proved it.
The company fled jurisdiction and set up shop elsewhere.
They asked Google to de-index the company; Google didn't, so, they addressed the matter in the courts. The courts agree and told Google to de-index in Canada, Google didn't.. appealed to the Canadian Supreme Court - ruling issued.
Google had every opportunity to de-index a company known to sell counterfeit goods and didn't.
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First - Canada's reach (should) end at Canada's borders.
Secondly - with such court rulings we begin to tread in the following area:
Consider Erdogon (of Turkey) ordering Google to remove the genocide of Armenians, and have his crony court make such a ruling. How far and wide does it extend? Should it extend?
I believe they call this sort of scenario a "slippery slope".
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Since the company that brought the case is based in Canada, they pursued the matter in their court system. If Google doesn't like the ruling, appeal to the World Court.
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The point (per the article in the original link I posted):Quote: The Supreme Court of Canada issued an order to Google Wednesday: Stop showing search results for a company accused of fraud, not just in Canada, but throughout the world. Yes, that includes everybody reading this in America.
And that is where the problem lies.
Hence, my reference to Turkey: they deny the Armenian genocide ever happened. In Turkey, you can go to prison for mentioning it. Since their court ruled it illegal, should it apply beyond their borders? Tiananmen Square never happened, either, in some places.
I have almost as much trust in the World Court as I do in the United Nations.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Canada's reach (should) end at Canada's borders.
In that case, so should the United States'.
Or do things look different when the shoe is on the other foot?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
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No. Our laws end at our borders.
There's a Federal "Do Not Call" list to stop telemarketers. However, if they call from Canada, Mexico, India, &etc., they don't give a damn about the list since they don't have to.
During prohibition, Canadian booze was smuggled into the US. It only became a crime when it crossed the border. Canada didn't have prohibition just because idiots over here did.
Now, if Canada want's to lob a few Cruise Missiles at Google, it's not for me to stop them.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Our laws end at our borders.
That is not quite accurate.
Exhibit A: laws such as FATCA, which have implications for financial organisations outside the U.S.
Exhibit B: attempts by the U.S. to force Microsoft (and others, presumably) to divulge data stored outside the U.S., without going through the courts in those countries.
I'm certain others can think of quite a few more exhibits.
The U.S. acts like a 900-pound gorilla whenever it thinks it can get away with it, but is quick to cry foul whenever another country tries the same.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
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How long does a short-circuit last?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Multiple hours, if you provide most outlets in the building with a stop-blow. And big chance it will end with a BBQ.
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I'm totally shocked you'd brought that up.
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The question has great potential.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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