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Let me be the first to congratulate you on using a tragedy to peddle your own brand of hatred. It's so refreshing to see a post like this at such an inappropriate point. I am sure those friends of mine, who identify as Muslim, are secretly plotting to terrorise me by being the first people who got in touch with me last night to say how horrified they are. It's all a subtle plot on their part. I see it now. Thank you for enlightening me. I am now, also a small minded xenophobe.
This space for rent
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Thank you for proving my point.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Pete, I understand the validity of your points. Would love to discuss further with you in the soapbox in the future when it's not so raw, but we both know it will not sway either of our point of view.
But I'd like to give a tiny example.
English football fans had a reputation for hooliganism. Now when we go abroad lots are banned from travelling ( those with known links to hooliganism/Isis). The ones that are allowed to travel (normal football fans/ moderate muslims) get extra police attention, In some cases get penned in or treated badly etc.
Basically the majority get treated badly because of the actions of a minority of our following. We understand why and we accept it.
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PJ Arends wrote: A long as western society continues to coddle and defend an ideology that is diametrically opposed to everything that western society stands for, these kinds of attacks will continue to happen.
And there is the rub, we - the west - believe that all people should have the freedom to think; to speak; to worship; to education as they wish provided it doesn't harm others.
Fanatics - of all sorts, not just these a*seholes - don't want that because it exposes the holes in their ideology that keeps them in power and others ground under them. You can't defeat fanatics with violence, it makes them victims and increases their sense of moral justification and thus the numbers they can get to follow their twisted methodology. Only education and removing the conditions under which they can recruit new members can win in the long run.
The current series of attacks smell of desperation: ISIS / ISIL are facing military losses; territorial losses; and probably feel that they need some kind of "triumph" to prevent desertion of those in their own ranks who can see what is happening.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Fanaticism knows no religion, ethnicity or sex. Fanatics resort to violence to control and disrupt.
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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<sardonic>
If we're bandying statistics, how about these:
The worst genocides of the 20th and 21st centuries
Murders committed by good God-fearing Christians: Over 27,000,000
This includes genocides by Hitler, King Leopold of Belgium, and Stalin (who was educated at a seminary), etc. Leaving out Stalin, we still have over 20,000,000 murders.
Murders committed by good Allah-fearing Moslems: Over 4,000,000
This includes the Armenian genocide by the Turks, etc.
Perhaps it's the Christians we should be banning from Europe...
</sardonic>
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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But were those genocides done in the name of Christianity?
I don't know about King Leopold, but neither Hitler nor Stalin belongs to the category "good God-fearing Christians", they were rather both opponents to Christianity.
Then again, the same is valid for the Turks.
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Didn't you notice the <sardonic> tags round my post? I even marked them in bold!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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sardonic (sɑːʳdɒnɪk )
adjective
If you describe someone as sardonic, you mean their attitude to people or things is humorous but rather critical.
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Can't we leave religion out of a terrorism discussion?
No. No we can't, apparently.
We'd all be better off without any belief system that involves some imaginary man in the sky. I'm sure we'd still find other excuses for hating each other however, but I'd be willing to give it a shot.
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Why two links should explain/justify anything...
Whether we are muslim, jew, hindu, christian, non belivers, atheists; I think humanity is the basic idea for which we all together should fight.
Just saying
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Marc Clifton wrote: Just saying.
What exactly are you "sayin"? That Islamic terrorism needs to be excused because other people have done it?
Those other people are not doing it right now. Right now it's the islamists, not the Christians.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Why do you think the Norse religion was eliminated? The Vikings were absolute barbarians.
I think we need to bring back whorehouses and opium dens for people to mellow out.
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/ravi
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- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Sitting here writing some code, listening to songs on iTunes.
Best lyrics so far: "Even I'd run from me if I could"
Sometimes I think we all feel that way...
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I dunno, maybe show me some of your code.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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I am currently reading "C# 6.0 and the .NET 4.6 Framework" by Troelsen and Japikse
What a fantastic book! Jam packed with technicalities of C# and .NET - All 1600 pages of it. It starts at a beginners level, but quickly progresses to Advanced level stuff, that covers over a 1,000 pages.
I must admit I battle to cover more than 100 pages per day. There is so much to learn!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I've read Troelsen's older version of that book years ago, back when .NET 3.5 was still new. It's the only "big" C# book I've ever read from cover to cover. Good stuff.
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Glad you mentioned that book, because I've been considering reading a new version of C# book.
In the past I read the Petzold, .NET Book Zero and the Jesse Liberty, Programming C#, but haven't really read one since 4.5 has been released.
I will definitely check it out.
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