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kmoorevs wrote: I've made a great career using MS technologies! I may complain occasionally, but acknowledge that overall these technologies (for the most part) have improved over the years while costing less or even becoming free.
 Me too!
/ravi
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Cornelius Henning wrote: Home users and hobbyists can get a totally free copy of Visual Studio 2017,
And Xamarin, to boot! 
/ravi
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That's a weird name for a cheese.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Windows is still only a consumer-grade operating system.
The best operating system is OpenVMS -- but I don't use it for email and Web browsing.
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Quote: The best operating system is OpenVMS
Hmmmm. I must look into this.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Some people here whine so much I think they are fermenting.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Whine - wine - ferment - I'm sure Griff can come up with some pun for TOTD using these! 
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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To be pedantic what's called "microsoft windows" is not an OS,
the package delivered as "microsoft windows" (3.1 .. 10) is an OS with: a built-in window manager and internet browser to name just a couple of non OS items. Which is OK, if you could choose to replace or use another similar item - but with windows you cant. (not easily).
One of the advantages of unix and it's offspring is that it is just an OS with implementation dependant hardware drivers (and the ability to add more necessary hardware drivers.)
Don't like the look of the windows: you can choose another (and most are independently very configurable to very different looks, even how the mouse works and when windowed apps become active...),
don't like a particular internet browser: you can choose another without having baggage of something you are never going to use built in and loaded into memory.
don't like the console (shell) ..., don't like the control panel ...
It would be really nice if ms gave us an os without the non-os items so tightly bolted in.
Instead they are in fact going the opposite direction: now they are forcing the choice of browser so that it's difficult (and they are hinting soon to be impossible) to choose another even if you can live with non used crap loaded up.
How long before they take away the old style windows mode and force it to be full time in that ugly metro (or whatever it's going to be called tomorrow) mode? (Don't doubt me, that will come.)
windows is a good os, the non-alterable crap bolted on that's the killer.
Nobody complains say linux is ugly (difficult yes, but not ugly) because the interface, the look, the way it acts is full configurable to how you want it.
All an OS is and should be is a callable software interface to the hardware.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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You are voicing the opinion of the silent majority, positive rarely gets a mention whereas negative bleats and howls all over the internet.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Now you got to be strong
Cornelius Henning wrote: I have had a few glitches since upgrading our home machines to 10, but in total I am very happy with it and will never go back to 7 or 8.1. I believe this is the opinion of the silent majority and "Microsoft Bashers" are just a noisy minority that doesn't have any real influence at all!
The same minority that did not like Vista, also the same that strangely left Win 7 alone and then rejected Win 8 again. See a pattern? For ten years Mickeysoft has treated us to one failure after another and, to answer your questions, don't want their stuff anymore even if it's 'free'. And, for my part, I'm sick and tired of investing time and money into yet another failure.
Win 10 is not a failure, you say? That's kindof old news.[^]
By the way, do you really think that that buggy memory hog is 'arguably the world's premier IDE'? Really? VS 2008 was the last I ever used and have been using a free alternative ever since. I'm missing one debugger feature, but that's all. No need to put up with Mickeysoft's bloatware, 'free' or not.
And you wanted to know why some people don't install the 'free' updates? Because you don't know these days what else they try to install without asking. You don't only get 'free' updates, you also get Mickeysoft's current agenda along with them. I'm sure they only want our best, which seems to be our money.
After 10 years of such desasters, I think they will not get it anymore. Mickysoft has jumped the shark and nuked the fridge years ago and will just get crazier every time they move on to their next failure. Just wait what happens when they finally drop Win 10 for the next 'it's the future!' grand idea they try to ram down our throats.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Absolutely! I have been using Windows 10 and have no reason to revert back to Win7. Win10 together with Office365 offers some really unique features. I, for one, absolutely love it's Quick Access feature which shows recently modified files both locally and from OneDrive, sorted by last modified date. Now they will be packing this feature up to SharePoint sites as well. The OS is now complementing their products both locally and on the cloud. Which is a great feature. Users can now access files from local machine, OneDrive, and SharePoint sites from the explorer itself. 
As a developer, VS will always remain my best product. Product might be a vague term. It can be a software. It can be a website. It can be a OS. For me, no matter what the category is, VS will remain the pick of all. That is one seamless stuff from MS!
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My latest annoyance with windows 10 is I have killed the calculator. I had brought it up and it was in programmer mode. I did a couple of calculations and then needed a function that wasn't available so I wanted to switch it to scientific mode. I clicked the "Scientific" label and it crashed. Now every time I call it up I see a blank window for about two seconds and then it goes away. I can't get it back. It's all done.
I'm at work now so my dogs aren't around to get scared like last time and my co-workers are already convinced I have Tourette's syndrome.
That's life for me with windows 10. I despise the user interface and it keeps doing stupid things and on and on...
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Hmm. There's always the usual: look for and clear CALC-related registry entries, .config files and such.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I did and it couldn't find anything beyond the class-type stuff. I didn't find configuration settings anywhere. I would think there are some somewhere because it does "remember" things but I couldn't find where they are kept.
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Registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Calc There are two values, a REG_DWORD called Layout that seems to correspond to the view selection, and a binary value called WindowPlacement. I'd give deleting the key a try to get Calc working again.
Software Zen: delete this;
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That key does not exist for me.
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w10 wasn't designed for serious use - why else would they put such a poor visual interface on it.
w10 is designed by the marketing dept as a sales gimmick, it's the lava lamp of the 201x's.
people would stare at the lava lamp, while mesmerised the sales person would sleaze in to sell the tv it was sitting on.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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I'm not so sure. I think this is their idea of a "modern, stylish" interface but I disagree. It may be modern but I find it to be horrendous.
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agree, it is ugly. No doubt though a building full of people were paid a shitload of money to come up with that design ... probably ten times as much as what it cost for what's behind it.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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Analogy: So he has to blow up and rebuild Macy's to fix a wobbly leg on his table?
To reset the calculator to the default display because Win10 is so Improved and Robust he has to do something completely unrelated to the calculator when it breaks doing something incredibly simple that it is supposed to be able to do? Wow! Lucky this O/S is less than a decade old or it might be in danger of just working.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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You'll be thrilled with this video from Build 2017 then. They spent nearly an hour explaining all the visual effects that have gone into some upcoming version of calc.exe. I'm almost not kidding. That's almost an hour of my life I'll never get back.
You know you've dropped the ball somewhere along the way when you have to spend that much time explaining visual effects that are so subtle, people wouldn't have noticed them otherwise.
Back on the topic at hand: Just grab calc.exe from Windows 7. Or XP. Or 95.
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Have you tried running Win7 in a VM and using that calculator?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Thanks! I'll give it a try.
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