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I resisted making the move to C# for a long time because I was so deeply vested in VB and finally the first part of this year I drove a stake in the sand and said that was it. I simply was not able to find the support for what I wanted to accomplish with my sites under VB and was clearly seeing abundant references for it under C#. It had become abundantly clear that community support for VB was waning.
I'm far from expert at this juncture but I've grown comfortable very fast with C# and haven't looked back for a second wishing I'd done differently.
So, if you're considering this for self improvement and development I would weigh heavy on the C# side of things. The only thing that might sway me to suggest VB in your case would be if you wanted to achieve something quick and dirty with something you know cold. Then there is an obvious consideration. However, with that benefit, comes walls that you must consider and for me those walls were insurmountable. You must consider those walls as well.
Good luck!
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C#, it will reduce the amount of abuse you have to wade through from "fellow programmers" that hate VB.Net regardless of whether they know anything about it.
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C# simply because there are more resources for it out there: Ebooks; tutorials; sample apps; app templates. When you need help, it'll be easier to find.
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As someone with almost the exact background - although I started with Basic on the BBC Micro, and my money earning language back in the day was Fortran.
Last year I also started work on building a website with an SQL db, and decided to use ASP.Net. I have done a fair bit of work in MS Access using Visual Basic, and needed to take aspects of that db online. I now have an Access db auto syncing with an online ASP.net app.
I learned by following a few tutorials in MVC VB, and started working in VB, but most of the StackOverflow examples are in C#, so changed to C# and don't regret it.
The Contoso university tutorials are a great place to start: Getting Started with Entity Framework 6 Code First using MVC 5 | The ASP.NET Site[^] . I created my first app by copying that. I still use it as a reminder to set up the start conditions for a new development.
The fact of the matter, in my experience, is that fundamentally all languages use the same building blocks of variables, loops, conditionals etc. The real issue is learning the new way of writing them.
The MVC environment was new to me, and that was where working through the tutorials had the most impact on my learning curve.
I have now developed several ASP.net MVC apps. I have to admit that mine probably isn't the prettiest code - I know this when I look back at the earlier stuff I wrote and faint - but it works.
I still have trouble writing complex Lambda expressions for accessing SQL, but C# has the option of almost SQL like expressions so use that method instead.
I also had problems with Code First getting out of step when updating a live DB, probably because I didn't really understand how it was working, but as I have a fair bit of SQL, I now create the db first and link the MVC to it. That way I don't stuff up a live client db again when I update it!
And as someone who first developed programs using a teletype and punched paper tape for I/O, and had to set switches on the front panel of an Elliot 803 to get it to load, Visual Studio is a bit of a leap forward!
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At this point there are 12 comments in this thread that recommend either VB or C#.
Technically the answer is obvious: he wants to do it in .Net Core.
.Net Core doesn't support VB. End of story.
What is interesting are the reasons given.
Of the 12, only one correctly identifies the fundamental issue.
Of the remainder, one suggests VB ("if you already know it"). A good answer (if you are ignorant of the .Net Core VB support issue).
One comment is neutral. In the way of things this neutral comment is the longest in the thread.
Prevaricators in Shakespeare always have the longest speeches.
That leaves nine recommendations - all of which can be classed as "virtue signalling", with no real information content.
The most blatant simply say that {bad people} use VB. Where {bad people} are either "liberal snowflakes" or "conservative flatulents". Two of these.
Also blatant are comments like "syntactically hideous VB" and "favorite loathsome script language du jour". Two of these.
Then there is the milder form of "C# is the industry standard". The virtue signal here is: "I am like all the others - you too should conform". Three of these.
One comments suggests that our man use C# because "you should work on being a polyglot programmer". The virtue signal here is "improve yourself!".
Enthusiastic support for C# over VB is almost always just of form of virtue signalling by insecure people.
Software development is a faddish, politically correct, and unstable industry. Virtue signalling is very important in that environment.
My recommendation to a young developer is not to reject virtue signalling because it is shabby, ignoble and false. Rather embrace it, use it to secure your cubicle over the long term.
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Like you I use VB in a variety of incarnations for many years. Eventually I decided to take the plunge and change to C#. For me it was mostly pretty easy to change, there are still one or two things that occasionally catch me out but now when I go back to VB code I have to think about it more than I used to. If that's not enough, I think Resharper works better with C#
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Or - forget both of them, try F#[^], FTW…
(And I started with ZX BASIC too, back in the day - although Z80 assembly pretty soon came along!)
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Oh yes!! I remember Z80 Assembler. A friend of mine had written a game for the ZX in Basic but some of the screens were too slow. I re-wrote them in Z80 Assembler for him. It was a moderately successful game but damned if I can remember the name of it.
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I hope that Leslie is not on the cast, but I have found no reference to the following video here:
Prelude to Axanar - YouTube[^]
I want to see the full movie!. The actors are good (does anyone recognize the Klingon?), the ships look great and even this trailer has enough phasers and torpedos to look at.
Edit: Almost an hour without any sign of life here, only some old grandpa snoring...
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
modified 5-Dec-16 9:05am.
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Ummm...you might be disappointed then to learn they're being sued[^] six ways to Sunday by Paramount.
Even if they win and manage go ahead, Paramount has established guidelines last year that will essentially prevent them from making something that's actually watchable.
(and while "guidelines" aren't laws, this is what Paramount has said is going to be what they're relying on to decide whether they're going to go after fan-made movies and such)
[Edit]
Perhaps this[^] is a better link.
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Trekies? Difficult to define coz like Terminator they keep bringing in future folk that change the past which means what happened last time didn't happen - I guess that means some former trekies are now anomalies of time lines that never happened.
Great for the movie industry, half of the old trek crew is gone, most are beyond getting up or recognizable, and there's a limit to the number of times they can wheel Nimoy out as a wise 400 year old version of himself. (And I can't see Arnie ever returning as an aging T1.)
Means they can tell the same story without it being a remake (Ghostbusters Reboot) or even being the same story (more visual effects, and lets introduce sexuality even though it really has no place in the story anyway - but I guess like Batman 'Dark Knight' crap they might be looking for a way to kill it off forever.)
In short:
everything we remember about Trek/Terminator is wrong because they changed it (and will keep changing it),
and inasmuch there is no such thing as a trekkie because they have nothing on which to be defined
- and if hollowood keeps up it's current 'dark' and sexuality ruinations of good clean past box office hits it'll be completely dead and destroyed anyway.
Sin tack ear lol
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Lopatir wrote: there's a limit to the number of times they can wheel Nimoy out
Yeah, especially since he's been dead for nearly 2 years now.
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Stick him in a glass box with a resporator like thingy and have him telepath wisdom to Kirk's great great grandmother?
That'll work at least once won't it?
Sin tack ear lol
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In the Abrams-verse, they've already established that Admiral Spock is dead, so they probably couldn't get away with that.
I'm waiting to see how they explain Checkov's absence in the next film. 
(Assuming there's going to be a next film.)
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Lopatir wrote: That'll work at least once won't it?
Only if he's riding a stolen Harley and wielding a shotgun at the same time.
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#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I've always thought that "Trekkie" would make a great name for a biscuit.
Unfortunately, it's more closely associated with kooky than cookie.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Actor with trembling lip in part of Chinese detective (7, 7)
Slogans aren't solutions.
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Actor
with trembling lip in LIP (anag)
part of Chinese detective CHARLIE CHAN
CHARLIE CHAPLIN
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Yep, that's the one. I was hoping that someone would be old enough to remember Charlie Chan 
Slogans aren't solutions.
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PeejayAdams wrote: I was hoping that someone would be old enough to remember Charlie Chan
Ouch!
You wound me sir!
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Shall I get your coat cane?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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If the cap fits 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Now, why didn't Samsung think of that?
Exploding Phones[^] 
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Is that a genuine Dilbert original, or a phony?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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