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Nish Nishant wrote: 25 length string is harder to crack than a 10 char password that uses both cases, numbers, and symbols.
Are you sure about that?
A 25-character password * a pool of (26 possible characters) can be brute-forced in 650 tries.
A 10-character password * a pool of (26 upper + 26 lower + 10 digits + ~20 symbols) require 820 tries to be guessed correctly.
Having written this...I'm tired and my mind has turned to mush a few hours ago and this looks wrong (I know exponentials have to be introduced in there), but even then I think the basic point of my over-simplification is still correct...is it not?
I'm sure the correct math will come to me after I've made a fool of myself... 
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dandy72 wrote:
Having written this...I'm tired and my mind has turned to mush a few hours ago and this looks wrong (I know exponentials have to be introduced in there), but even then I think the basic point of my over-simplification is still correct...is it not?
Sorry, your math's not right
A char-set of 26 chars with a length of 25 gives 2.36e+35 permutations.
A char-set of 82 chars with a length of 10 gives 1.37e+19 permutations.
The former is way stronger
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Nish Nishant wrote: Sorry, your math's not right 
Hence the disclaimer.
I knew I was way off, and somebody would correct me. Was not disappointed.
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To get back to my original point, what I am trying to convey here is that a longer easier to remember password is often safer than a shorter harder to remember one. That said, it's not all black and white.
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Agreed. Horse-Battery-Staple and all that.
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No, they still stick them to their screens, those that don't come Monday morning, "I can't remember what I used, maybe it was my dogs name .... no, ...., wait, with or without big letters, umm, I'll call support, they were quite quick last week."
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the "Any" key may be continuate
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When IT policy forces people to change their passwords every 60 days, no wonder they can't remember them
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Ah, security taken to the point of absurdity.
I can see it now....
Next week our company is moving to ten-factor authentication.
Upon login, you will need to provide a password (1). Then you will receive an email with a link to a website(2) which you will provide your telephone number(3). If the telephone number provided is on record, you will receive a passcode(4) via text message. After correctly entering the passcode on the original login splash screen, the system will provide you a unique ten digit key(5) which you will need to complete your authentication process. Do not write down the ten digit key. Go to the bio-metric authentication closet. Enter your ten digit key on the key-pad. The bio-metric closet will open to let you in. Once inside the closet, you will need to use the scanners to provide your fingerprints(6), retina scan(7), plus a blood(8) and stool sample(9). Once you have completed the process and have been successfully authenticated, the system will provide you a unique, one-time-use, 22 character passcode(10) that will allow you to login to your computer. Do not write the passcode down and the passcode will also expire after 120 seconds. If you fail to login to your station before the temporary passcode expires, you will have to repeat the process.
Then the CIO will brag that he has the most secure network in the world.
if (Object.DividedByZero == true) { Universe.Implode(); }
Meus ratio ex fortis machina. Simplicitatis de formae ac munus. -Foothill, 2016
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Because their programmer still needs to grasp that newfangled weirdness called "Unicode" and instead of solving that problem, they shift the problem over to you.
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Not allowing special characters helps a little bit with all of the rules in the linked article. The article is about XSS only. Then there could be SQL injections, command line injections, etc. on top of this.
For maintainability due to XSS, if one developer encodes something in the context of an HTML attribute, and then another developer refactors it and moves the same information into a hidden HTML element or a javascript code block, the second developer better update all of the different encoding rules! This applies to both server and client side code dealing with the data.
XSS (Cross Site Scripting) Prevention Cheat Sheet - OWASP[^]
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I can understand completely if there are segments of the population that are not familiar with what a "special character" is ... unless it was an uncle.
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Could we try a parallel thread wherein we post the thread of follow-ups and O-G has to come up with the original based upon them?
Meanwhile, a proposal for Chris' weekend project: allow for an insert mode for the beginning of the thread.
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Pshhhhht! Don't you see that the grandpas have fallen asleep again?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I'm not sleeping - I'm just breathing loudly.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That explains everything. I was already looking out the window to get a look of that steam locomotive.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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No WE haven't!
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Actually this is the time of the day dedicated to work...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Certainly. And deep contemplation.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: contemplation
Hey - keep your third eye on your own naval!
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Get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Could we try a parallel thread
No.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I had asked a programming question several days ago. Now its status says that the question is deleted. But it does not say for which reason. Or even I didn't get notified.
Was the question inappropriate to ask there?
I'm actually new to the Quick Answers[^] So it would be helpful for me if could know the reason of deleting my question.
This is the question link:
Go language slow compile......[^]
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You'd have to ask Sean - and he's Canadian, so it'll be a few hours before he will be in the office.
But ... if I had to guess, he deleted it because it's not a question ... there isn't any real information there, there's no explanation of exactly what the problem is, the environment in which you get the problem, the specifics of how it's "so slow" or what the "small program" might be, what system you used to compile it, or even how you timed it! And a slow compiler probably isn't a problem we could fix anyway - you'd be best asking the people who produced the compiler, rather than a random website! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hmmm, it could be this is a very M$ Visual Studio site, though there is a move toward other languages Python etc. I don't know if Go is supported yet (in fact you are the only person I have seen who uses Go). The important thing if the question fell foul of the Hamsters it was probably due to the fact a question on Go ended up in the C++ section and was mistaken for spam. In general the users here abouts are not the type to make you wish you had done Cooking instead of Computer Science. If you ask a question and show you (& probably uncle Google) have tried they will help...
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There are some elements who over-moderate the Q/A forums and take the liberty to delete questions, mock those who ask questions, etc. without offering much of any real help. Some of them may have high "reputation" (can't buy beans in exchange for it), and it makes them feel entitled to do some really childish things.
Having said that, it might very well be that your question wasn't really a question, or it flouted some or the other guidelines for posting a question.
Sometimes it's somewhere in between; and with no visibility to the question itself, it's hard for anyone here to accurately say anything. I personally feel that whoever deleted it at least could have posted a comment on why they're doing so.
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