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Sander Rossel wrote: real man"(?)
Can't find that in the OP.
Sander Rossel wrote: because you eat meat and somehow that's supposed to make you really awesome and manly.
See above
Sander Rossel wrote: Like you never eat a salad or really could not eat anything other than meat.
I do - but not tofu. And so does the OP.
Sander Rossel wrote: This "I eat meat" stuff was pretty funny at first, but it's getting really old.
"I don't eat Tofu" and "I eat meat" are two separate things - Except you're riding the cliché train.
From my point of view (and that one might differ from yours since I'm not a veggie and probably thus not as sensitive on that matter) connecting throwing tofu away to a veggie joke is not really obvious. Maybe it is to you, but not to me. I'm not an SME on that, but I bet there are tons of other things than tofu one can eat as a vegetarian.
Sander Rossel wrote: Sorry man, nothing personal.
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Marco Bertschi (SFC) wrote: From my point of view (and that one might differ from yours since I'm not a veggie and probably thus not as sensitive on that matter) connecting throwing tofu away to a veggie joke is not really obvious
Let's put it this way, most veggie jokes are about tofu, salads and eating meat 
Maybe this one in particular wasn't meant to ridicule veggies (although why would you, out of nowhere, compare tofu to meat and declare meat the victor?). When people think veggie they think tofu and vice versa.
I'm not offended in any way, but it does get tiring sometimes 
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Sander Rossel wrote: although why would you, out of nowhere, compare tofu to meat and declare meat the victor?
Because tofu is treated as meat replacement in todays age. From my point of view, it isn't. It's not a replacement for anything. It's just gross.
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Quote: it does get tiring sometimes
That's due to the lack of real meat proteins in your diet, perhaps? 
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Sander Rossel wrote: they always tell you they're vegetarian
You certainly not an exception
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Well, you know, I AM a vegetarian 
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Sander Rossel wrote: it's because if we don't tell you you'll give us meat and we don't eat that so things will get really awkward... And we won't have food.
With all respect to you Sander, whose fault is that? I was brought up with a mom that told me: "Eat what is on the table or you won't get any food" and "I've been standing around for so and so long making dinner for you, you'd better eat it or stop wasting my time and make your own food"!
If you have a medical affliction that makes you incapable of eating certain food, fine! But if you just don't WANT to eat what is served, by all means go hungry as far as I am concerned!
There's too much egocentrism around today, too much "I do what I want! It's MY right, and you should all respect that". But tell other people what they should put on their table, sure, THAT they can do! Everybody should respect THEM, but they don't have to respect other people!
Sorry, but it really pisses me off! People are welcome to do what they like in their own home, I don't care, but they shouldn't force it on the rest of us...
This is nothing personal Sander, just a rant against a general attitude! Sorry
[ADDENDA] If I get served something I don't like, I'll just eat as little of it as possible and eat more of what I DO like. I never, ever expect people to make special food for me - I would rather go hungry than put people out [/ADDENDA]
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I'm not telling you what you should or should not eat, but if you invite me to your home to have dinner I'm going to tell you I'm a vegetarian.
A good host would take my diet into account and would probably even ask if there's anything I don't eat (I also don't like corn and peas).
If you still serve me meat you're not a good host, we'll have an awkward dinner and I'll happily reject your invitation next time.
Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian (and most meat eaters are fine with it, none of my friends eats meat every day anyway), but some people really enjoy their meat (my dad and grandpa, for example). If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.
It's not really an attitude, just taking each other's wishes into account.
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So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve? Seriously, can't you hear the double standards there? It's nice of you that you want to cook meat for your dad and grandpa, but to be honest, it's the first time EVER I've heard such a statement from a vegetarian
And I don't agree - it IS an attitude, and it comes from children being spoiled rotten these days... The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other, the straight opposite of what you claim...
An example: Young people don't stand up for older people on the subway any more, because THEY have a right to sit down as well. Sure, but somebody may need the seat more...
The "I have my rights" attitude effectively eliminates all consideration to other people
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Sander Rossel wrote: Likewise, if I invite you to my home for dinner I'll ask if it's okay if I cook something vegetarian [...] If you want your meat I'll get you your meat.
Johnny J. wrote: So I should cook special food for you if you visit me, but if I visit you, I should eat what you serve?
How did you get that from my words? 
Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?
So I was saying we should all respect each other's wishes, meat, vegetarian, no peas, gluten-free, what have you, and a good host would do so.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Let me tell you about double standards, if I come to your house I should eat meat because that's what you serve, but if you come to my house you expect meat too because that's what people are supposed to eat. So how is that any different?
Well, I guest it's not all that different, but I didn't say that you had to eat meat. If you read my Addenda to the first post I made, I would expect you to eat the parts of the menu you wanted to eat. I'm assuming that it is a mixed company with guests that eat meat and guests (you in this case) that don't.
As mentioned, if I were going to a dinner party I wouldn't expect the host to cook any special food for me, and frankly as a host: If you have to take everybody's quirks into consideration, chances of being able to put together a menu at all are slim to none.
Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner?
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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Johnny J. wrote: Never mind, can't we just agree on the fact that most likely, we will not invite each other to dinner?
I'll cancel the reservations
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Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: The attitude that other people should adapt to ME, but I don't have to adapt to other people. And it's a real rotten attitiude, because it leaves us with a world where people have no consideration for each other
Truer words were never spoken.
"You can be anything you want to be" can only result in a shipload of "I wanna be an @rsehole" responses.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: How to prepare a tofu:
Step1: Throw it in the trash Give it someone who needs food.
Step2: Grill some real meat Grill some paneer.
Done.
FTFY
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It's like C. If you use tofu correctly, you can make some great dishes out of it. If not...it turns into an awful mess.
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I'd say that:
goto the_fridge_and_get_something_else
Is both good C usage and good tofu usage.
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I just updated a certain not particularly wanted runtime that to avoid naming names I'll call Dumpster Fire on my PC, and it launched a tab in one of my browsers in an attempt to confirm that it had infected the browser too:
Quote: Verify Dumpster Fire Version
The Chrome browser does not support NPAPI plug-ins and therefore will not run all Dumpster Fire content. Switch to a different browser (Firefox, Internet Explorer or Safari on Mac) to run the Dumpster Fire plug-in. More info
A when the url was copied over second browser reports:
Quote: Verify Dumpster Fire Version
We are unable to verify if Dumpster Fire is currently installed and enabled in your browser.
If you have installed Dumpster Fire and there is an error with the verification, there could be a configuration issue (eg. browser, Dumpster Fire control panel, security settings) or the Dumpster Fire plug-in is blocked by the browser. Try restarting your browser before trying to verify the installation again, and check that the browser allows Dumpster Fire to run.
Now if I could just free my system as a whole from it, but I can't because I might need to do Android dev at some point in the future.
PS While it was installing I noticed that the version of the Dumpster Fire installer I got no longer claimed "over billion devices" ran Dumpster Fire. I wonder why they chose to remove it.
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Dumpster Fire is a coffee flavor.
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Yup, also a major island, not that anyone here needed either hint.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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Dan Neely wrote: no longer claimed "over billion devices" ran Dumpster Fire
Dead giveaway, since it is advertised on each non-update.
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I regularly get the request to download the latest version of Dumpster Fire, and when I accept it promptly tells me I already have the latest version. And IT want to build core systems on this piece of crap!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
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Do you still need the Dumpster Fire runtime installed if you use an AeroKidney* IDE? I know AeroKidney* IDE's don't need a separate Dumpster Fire installation, they've got one properly sandboxed quarantined inside the IDE process.
*-Name changed to protect Dumpster Fire's anonymity by association
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Kudos for the extraordinarily appropriate name.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It was a term too good to not spread beyond the cluster elephant that domestic politics have turned into over the last half year. The target for doing so was obvious.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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