Click here to Skip to main content
15,909,199 members

The Insider News

   

The Insider News is for breaking IT and Software development news. Post your news, your alerts and your inside scoops. This is an IT news-only forum - all off-topic, non-news posts will be removed. If you wish to ask a programming question please post it here.

Get The Daily Insider direct to your mailbox every day. Subscribe now!

 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Dave Kreskowiak3-Oct-16 12:30
mveDave Kreskowiak3-Oct-16 12:30 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 12:44
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 12:44 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Dave Kreskowiak3-Oct-16 13:34
mveDave Kreskowiak3-Oct-16 13:34 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 17:01
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 17:01 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Member 116832513-Oct-16 20:03
Member 116832513-Oct-16 20:03 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Basildane4-Oct-16 3:10
Basildane4-Oct-16 3:10 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
den2k883-Oct-16 21:41
professionalden2k883-Oct-16 21:41 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 2:52
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 2:52 
I suspect it's going to happen sooner than a decade from now.

SSD price/GB is falling faster than HDD price/GB. Projections I've seen in the last year or two show SDDs becoming cheaper in initial purchase costs for bulk data storage around 2025. Since those are just projections for when trend lines intersect, I suspect it will probably actually happen a year or two sooner. It takes several years for the R&D costs of a new platform to actually earn out in sales; meaning that a 2024 HDD platform will probably never do so when it's overtaken a year later; meaning HDD dev will probably stop one platform before where the original intersection point is and SSDs will only need to be cheaper than a 2-3 year old design to win.

Strait line projections also assume that the R&D budgets will remain intact; I suspect that's also overly optimistic. The Tom's article shows the pending collapse of cheap laptop HDDs (and similar articles at Anandtech have shown its already in rapid retreat). While that doesn't matter much for overall profitability because the margins on those drives are negligible, so losing them doesn't matter much to the overall bottom line. The problem is that they're already eating high speed SAS drives alive in the data center, and these are a big money maker. Currently they can partially counterbalance that by selling more maximum density 3.5" drives at premium prices; the pending problem there is that in the data center power consumption (directly and in HVAC needs) and physical volume matter at least as much as the raw price/GD. That in turn means that even for bulk archival storage SSDs will become cheaper in TCO well before they're cheaper in terms of raw dollars/gigabyte on the sticker price. Once that happens I'm skeptical that consumer/SMB NAS sales will be able to sustain the R&D.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius

Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt

GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
den2k884-Oct-16 3:05
professionalden2k884-Oct-16 3:05 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 4:15
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 4:15 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
den2k884-Oct-16 4:21
professionalden2k884-Oct-16 4:21 
GeneralRe: With HDDs On The Ropes, Samsung Predicts SSD Price Collisions As NVMe Takes Over Pin
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 4:51
Dan Neely4-Oct-16 4:51 
NewsMultiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:17
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:17 
GeneralRe: Multiple Linux Distributions Affected By Crippling Bug In Systemd Pin
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 10:57
TheGreatAndPowerfulOz3-Oct-16 10:57 
NewsLatest update to Windows 10 Anniversary causing installation woes for some Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:16
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:16 
GeneralRe: Latest update to Windows 10 Anniversary causing installation woes for some Pin
Pete O'Hanlon3-Oct-16 20:27
mvePete O'Hanlon3-Oct-16 20:27 
NewsTim Cook defended Apple's approach to security: 'Encryption is inherently great' Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:14
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:14 
NewsIntel wearables show models' stress levels on Paris runway Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:11
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:11 
GeneralRe: Intel wearables show models' stress levels on Paris runway Pin
.dan.g.4-Oct-16 20:18
professional.dan.g.4-Oct-16 20:18 
NewsSam Altman’s Manifest Destiny Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:08
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:08 
NewsHas the US just given away the internet? Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:05
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:05 
GeneralRe: Has the US just given away the internet? Pin
Rob Grainger4-Oct-16 1:07
Rob Grainger4-Oct-16 1:07 
NewsVint Cerf: Modern Media Are Made for Forgetting Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:01
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 10:01 
NewsAre Flawed Languages Creating Bad Software? Pin
Sean Ewington3-Oct-16 9:55
staffSean Ewington3-Oct-16 9:55 
GeneralRe: Are Flawed Languages Creating Bad Software? Pin
Rob Grainger4-Oct-16 1:27
Rob Grainger4-Oct-16 1:27 

General General    News News    Suggestion Suggestion    Question Question    Bug Bug    Answer Answer    Joke Joke    Praise Praise    Rant Rant    Admin Admin   

Use Ctrl+Left/Right to switch messages, Ctrl+Up/Down to switch threads, Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right to switch pages.