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Now that is worth knowing.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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According to that article:
"Windows still won’t restart your computer while you’re actively using it, even outside of active hours
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If that is true, then what is the measure of active? Keyboard/mouse activity or processor or disk IO.
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Anything I'd say would be assumptive: really my take away was the capability to set maintenance windows.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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No, that is not how it happens anymore. 10 days ago, it happened to me too, my laptop restarted on itself without asking me anything about it.
If this is the case, that you were in the middle of an important work, then personally I would suggest updating the work hours and set it to the timing where your work is about to be done. Windows won't restart during that time.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Personally I see that more as a workaround, than a real solution  .
they should allow users to switch the forced shutdown/restart off if they want to.
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V. wrote: Personally I see that more as a workaround, than a real solution
Prior to Windows 10 1607, there was a solution where you could defer the updates to a week or more. Since 1607, this is the only solution not a workaround.
V. wrote: they should allow users to switch the forced shutdown/restart off if they want to.
Of course they should. I liked the previous way of deferring the updates to a week, or more, until when I was ready. Now, that option is gone and work hours is provided.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: personally I would suggest updating the work hours
Completely useless for me. I use a laptop and carry it around. When I'm working it's open and I'm working on it. When I'm not working it's closed and sleeping. I don't leave my laptop running overnight.
Make the screen flash hot pink and green or something. Sound a klaxon. Anything. Just DO NOT RESTART MY MACHINE WHILE I'M TYPING.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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just turn off automatic restart and you are fine...
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Herbie Mountjoy wrote: While my PC was in the middle of building a very large database the computer shut down and started doing an update. Result, half an hour later I logged back in to find a totally corrupted database. Worse than that, it had also corrupted the system database and now I have to rebuild everything.
You know, we should really get together for a class action lawsuit against Microsoft and this BS.
Marc
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Set the update options. (Windows 7 also periodically did this, especially on a domain.)
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So you went windows 10 eh?
Remember that "I Accept" tick box at the end of the Licence Terms ...
You been owned! 
PS: did you not notice the evil laughter in the background when you checked that box?
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Odd - no posts from the fanboy's, yet. Perhaps they didn't get a chance to read this thread because they were being updated?
It would be a good time to ask them "are we having fun, yet?"
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Odd - no posts from the fanboy's, yet. Perhaps they didn't get a chance to read this thread because they were being updated?
It would be a good time to ask them "are we having fun, yet?"
I very much doubt there's anyone in the world that doesn't see the Windows 10 update debacle as, well ... a debacle.
That doesn't, however, necessarily mean that Microsoft are evil incarnate; that they started it all by invading Poland or that they deliberately invented the Ebola virus to distract the world from Windows ME.
Equally, it doesn't mean that Apple or those in charge of the home-brew UNIX clones have never got anything wrong either. Chances are, they have.
It is what it is (an utterly annoying and cr@ppy thing) but it doesn't mean we have to have one of those boring "my multi-trillion dollar corporation is better than your multi-trillion dollar corporation" things that such discussions always seem to turn into.
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Rather recently there were other threads on the Win10 Update debacle.
And there were supporters of the process - and they said people could just shut them off if they wanted to.
Ignoring that it was not a user-available setting and required shutting down the service - which then meant that they weren't offered the updates at all.
I've not read the Win10 TOS, but I'd imagine it has an entire section devoted to "if an unwanted updated causes you a problem - well, that's your problem".
My comment on those threads really can be summed up as follow: "My upgrade from Win7 is to Linux"
(no multi-trillion dollar company there).
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No multi-trillion corporation but still a bunch of humans (an over-engineered and over-produced variety of life-form that can generally be relied on to screw something up at some point in time).
I'd imagine that every set of T&Cs ever written has a similar "our problems aren't our problems" section. That's pretty much what T&Cs where invented for.
I'm not saying that Microsoft could never do anything to drive me to another OS but this one gets them a yellow card rather than a red.
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PeejayAdams wrote: this one gets them a yellow card rather than a red
My problem is I've given them so many yellows throughout my time spent in their game ... it's been time for me (since around 10 years now) to simply ban them completely from the game (for life), never mind a red card.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: And there were supporters of the process - and they said people could just shut them off if they wanted to.
They're a couple of well known MS wu mao, they always rise to defend their beloved employer when its honor is being endangered.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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PeejayAdams wrote: they deliberately invented the Ebola virus to distract the world from Windows ME
It all makes sense now. 
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Or maybe they too have been bitten by this p.o.s.
#SupportHeForShe
Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Set the update options. (Windows 7 also periodically did this, especially on a domain.)
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I think you missed out . . . Lose10 doesn't offer that option. The user has to go to system services to shut it off - something only a very small fraction of user can/would know how to do. Otherwise, it's not an option - it will do what it wants when it wants to.
However, once you shut the service, you don't get any messages that updates are available at all.
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I was referring to restart times.
Go to Start|Settings|Update & Security. You can set a custom restart time and active hours.
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I may have to do that on one of our machines at our theatre. It's running the sound and video cueing system, and even if an update was applied when there wasn't a performance taking place, it would be a serious problem if the update stopped the machine working, or uninstalled a driver, which is not unheard of.
I'd prefer to be able to say that the machine cannot apply updates at any time in a given range of dates (because of course we know the performance schedule up to a year in advance). Currently we turn off the network connection, but it gets turned back on to download sound files from effects sites and so on, and that can trigger an update, and if someone forgets to disable it after downloading something ...
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You probably thought of this, or there are requirements on the theater machines that may get in the way, but why not keep the theater machine off-line and get the necessary downloads on another box, then transfer the files? (Possibly clone system).
It occurring in a uniform set of file locations, you could have this run automatically for you every day at some safe time.
A couple hundred bucks for a bare-bones set up to do this could save some future disaster and pay for itself in one use. Or maybe one of those <$100 refubs.
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Yes, longer term that's what I'll be suggesting - that the sound cue machine by default has no route to the internet. We do need to have network access to the machine, though, so turning off the network connection is inconvenient, especially for tech rehearsals, and I'm going to be suggesting that we need a more "long trousered" network management suite, so that we can do as you say, grab files on one machine and transfer them over the network, but not allow internet access. The joys of volunteer run theatre.
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