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Back when I was in my late teens, studying mech aero engineering, I wasn't that good at chess and never rated myself and so never played it. Then s few years ago, after 20 years of programming having switched to of in my 20s, I was challenged to a game...
He was good, s mathematician, it was a very deep intense game, and what surprised me was my ability to think deeply into all the various moves, counter moves, and evolutions down many iterations, and hold them all in my head at the same time. Something I could never do as a teenager.
I won, with a killed rook move.
And I can only put this down to the years of brain exercise writing programs, where the same depth, complexity and interconnections of events i exists, gave me.
I played it a few times after that with other people and anihilated them.
Anyone else noticed writing programs having such an effect?
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Just doing things in general. It's a continuous background process of conditionals with branching.
Even fixing (replacing) a water line from sink-to-fridge, under house in 18" sand-floored crawl space strewn with obstacles - a nearly 30 foot crawl in this to the closer of the two kitchen access holes. It was to be one trip. All steps planned, even to the taping of the tube pushed through the floor on startup (tape tip to keep out sand) and fluorescent makings on wire hanger stuck through floor on push-up side (so 1/4" hole could be found). Tools, forehead light, extra batteries: really, just like user-proofing a some code.
Similar for most tasks - not quite a conscious effort as it's what we do.
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My situation is a almost same... I was good as kid with chess and didn't lost it even didn't played a single game in almost 20 years... Probably the 'brain exercise' was good to me too...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Wow! I've just realized they removed Chess from Windows! Shows how much I play computer games! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I always hated chess. There's really nothing to it. It's a stupid game for people who enjoy memorising 30,000 moves from other games -- or "gambits", to use the snooty word -- which, to me, doesn't make it a game.
It's the wine connoisseur of games; all mouth and trousers.
Scrabble can be as bad, in the wrong company, but at least it can be fun -- which is kinda the point of games.
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To summarize, you don't understand anything about chess. But then admittedly, it's not for everyone.
Maybe you'll love pokemon go. I heard it's not particularly strenuous on the brain.
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I was forced to join a chess club by my parents, because my being "the clever one" was a feather in their cap -- ego-stroking is pretty much the main function of chess.
I can also ride a horse, but I've never seen one that moves two paces forward and one pace to the side, or a bishop that can only move at funny angles and kills people -- and no queen of any European country has ever, to my knowledge, been a more versatile warrior than her husband.
It's petty childish rubbish that isn't even fun.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I was forced to join a chess club by my parents, because my being "the clever one" was a feather in their cap -- ego-stroking is pretty much the main function of chess. your parents
Fixed that.
Mark_Wallace wrote: It's petty childish rubbish that isn't even fun someone would force their children to do something solely to stroke their egos.
Fixed that one too.
Mark_Wallace wrote: I can also ride a horse, but I've never seen one that moves two paces forward and one pace to the side, or a bishop that can only move at funny angles and kills people -- and no queen of any European country has ever, to my knowledge, been a more versatile warrior than her husband.
So, you never liked chess, but your parents forced you into it and you clearly couldn't comprehend one bit of anything involving the complexity or the beauty of the game, except for some basic rules around valid piece movements. You've since developed an aversion to it as a result.
While I'm sorry this happened to you, arguing that chess is rubbish because your parents forced you into it doesn't make a lot of sense.
modified 1-Sep-16 3:30am.
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I can't argue with your fixes, but this:
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: you clearly couldn't comprehend
Is a very foolish thing to say.
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Calling chess stupid because your parents forced you into it - that's a foolish thing. Besides, you did make your comprehension of the game apparent by explaining what you understood about it - how bishop moves in angles, and how you know to ride horses, but they can't jump in L shape, etc.
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You are an extremely rude and ignorant person.
Do not talk to me again.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: You are an extremely rude and ignorant person.
I'm sorry if I were rude (looking back, I could have been less rude) but while that wasn't specifically intended, ignorant will be you. You're not the nicest person to people on this site either, as I've witnessed on different occasions.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Do not talk to me again.
Ummm. This is an open forum and you don't get to tell someone what they should do. You however have an option of not responding to me or anyone else that you don't like to talk to.
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I joke with people, in an appropriate place where people can take a joke -- the CP Lounge, in case it doesn't twig.
You were not joking. You were persistently rude and unashamedly insulting. There is no appropriate place for that kind of behaviour.
If you can't tell the difference, I very much doubt that you will ever have (or keep) many friends.
Or jobs, for that matter.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I joke with people, in an appropriate place where people can take a joke -- the CP Lounge, in case it doesn't twig.
Ummm, let me guess. Right on this thread your joke was calling me ignorant while you demonstrated profound ignorance yourself over and over. Not a very funny joke, but I get it now.
Mark_Wallace wrote: You were not joking. You were persistently rude and unashamedly insulting. There is no appropriate place for that kind of behaviour.
Well grasped, I wasn't joking. I was pointing out how it's silly to call chess stupid because your parents were forcing you to play it. I do not believe that was as rude or insulting as you're portraying it.
Mark_Wallace wrote: If you can't tell the difference, I very much doubt that you will ever have (or keep) many friends.
Oh, my friends are all doing just fine. You might want to look one post below to know what people think about *you* in general.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Or jobs, for that matter.
Worry not, I've never had any problems on that front.
Makes me curious though, what would be your logic behind these little 'predictions' of yours. Or did you say you don't games involving logical thinking? Yes, you did.
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Hey, kiddo, you're just an ignorant a***hole who thinks you're better than me because you're so stupid that you still play chess, but I'd bet you EUR 5,000 that I'd beat you at it (this is not a joke; the money is sitting here, waiting).
My disdain for chess comes because it's too F***cking easy but is treated like it's special, not because I'm an idiot like you who has trouble winning at it.
Here's a tip: Learn to speak with people with a little respect, even when you're taking the piss, and your life won't be half as "complicated" as it is now.
Oh, and TL/DR, by the way.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Hey, kiddo, you're just an ignorant a***hole who thinks
Kiddo? Unless you're visually impaired, that doesn't make much sense. You've resorted to verbiage of personal attacks pretty quickly which shows your true colours so you don't have to hide behind the pretense of being a harmless guy joking with others in the lounge any longer.
Mark_Wallace wrote: but I'd bet you EUR 5,000 that I'd beat you at it (this is not a joke; the money is sitting here, waiting).
Good thing you clarified it wasn't a joke; I'd bet EUR 5001 that a monkey stoned high on pot will humiliate you at chess.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Here's a tip: Learn to speak with people with a little respect, even when you're taking the piss, and your life won't be half as "complicated" as it is now.
Respect isn't begged for, but earned. Respect is also mutual and doesn't work one way, but I'm not surprised about your ignorance on that one as well, since these things are taught in school and you must have dropped out at grade 3 or so.
You're fantasizing that you're someone respected and important here, but the comments from other members are denoting quite the opposite. It looks like many here regard you as an intolerant troll who can't deal with someone disagreeing with your lowly opinions.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Oh, and TL/DR, by the way
Don't worry, I'm fully aware of your inability to read and comprehend, so I won't push you like your parents did.
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TL;DR
And *PLONK*, btw. Save your insulting, ignorant behaviour for your mother; I won't knowingly read another word you write.
Have fun with matt & ryan, down there at the bottom of the barrel.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: arguing that chess is rubbish because your parents forced you into it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Just ignore Mark. He looks for reasons to have an argument/fight in the Lounge. Speaking of stroking the ego. 
He is very rude and then if you question him he starts to call you rude and attack you. Better to just ignore him. Because he has CP points, people won't consider him a troll, but currently, he is trolling you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You are the only person in the CP Lounge that I speak harshly to.
That had to be earned.
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He does, doesnt he.
He constructed a big argument about whether 'frappe' mean milk shake or not (or somesuch, it was so dull I dont recall the details).
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Munchies_Matt wrote: He does, doesnt he.
His initial response to you was clearly a baiting for a fight. He clearly insulted you. Glad to see you ignored him. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm gonna have to do that one too, but I do occasionally bite it and give some back. Not a productive thing to do though so I completely agree with your suggestion.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: argument about whether 'frappe' mean milk shake or not
You can't be serious. 
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Dont you start! 
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