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peer review and community feedback
positive and negative points
for user to grant points, requires rank X.
to get rank X requires positive/negative score that you decide.
if to much negative, your posts start to not be seen by others
Opt in require to see negative ppl
your community becomes what the community wants. If have moderators that grant positive points for behaviour you do not want, blame the moderator and your self for allowing the moderator to rise to rank X.
to allow lower ranks to contribute
all to grant negative points - which if enough negatives - helps highlight post to moderator.
and you get affected by choice of moderator -
- extra points if same as moderator
- possible negative if different to moderator
and your "trolls" can stay in, posting not knowing that only a few people will see their comments.
and if want to see such comments, you can opt in. Everyone wins.
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Only let people join your community if the promise to take the part of village idiot.
It shows a little humbleness, a light heart, and, if all else fails, since they're considered village idiots, no one will take them seriously.
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Isn't that what FarceBook is there for?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Clickety![^]
Have you ever noticed that it seems like the number of children is inversely proportional to the IQ of the parents? 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
modified 23-Aug-16 9:44am.
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By that standard I qualify as one of our greatest brains.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Or, more likely, a biological cul-de-sac.
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Looking at the primates and mutants others have produced, I actually did not have to think too hard.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Workers and drones needed in abundance compare to controllers.
Because of overtaxed familial resources and typical lack of education that ensues, the condition is typically passed from generation to generation.
Localized into breeding colonies of what are often referred to as small towns full of good people.
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What if we treat this as a huge multi-armed bandit optimization problem.
Have the server serve messages (and replies to them, to prevent out-of-context replies) that it thinks could be good for the objective, plus some exploration of course, balancing those goals is what multi-armed bandit is all about.
Optimize for .. I don't know exactly. Maybe do some sentiment analysis on the message and replies to it.
Hellban people who consistently show bad payout.
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Yes, yes, I can see how this would work!  
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People will perform to the level of expectation in most cases or refuse to participate altogether.
That said, if your community has a drawing card that sufficiently draws in people and they wish to participate in it, you set a level of expectation and then enforce that by providing a means to throttle participation should a member fail to behave in accordance to the stated expectation. When they have once again proven they can interact without being a disturbance then they can be restored to the a greater participation in the community.
Now, as I respond to your question I can think of two communities that I participate in that follow this model almost to the letter and have been long standing. And yes, the staff and ownership put in a lot of effort to maintain order and keep things running smooth, but at the same time what happens in both situations is that the users base has come to the point of monitoring themselves as well because they realize what a good thing they have in comparison to other communities on the web and lets someone come in with a wild apple cart and they are going to start an intervention immediately on that individuals behalf to try and bring them into compliance with the community standard in advance of a encounter with a moderator.
Yes, now and again a temper flairs and someone storms off never to be heard from again but it is rare and these communities are large and vibrant. Been around for years and will be around for years to come because they have their standards and they enforce their rules. It's about expectations and what faith you put in people to be.
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Super Lloyd wrote: I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?
That's easy. Give all offenders troll points and encourage trolling them. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Super Lloyd wrote: Though not all community are toxic, CodeProject would be quite positive by contrast
And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Super Lloyd wrote: I was also wondering about a reputation system. Is there any reputation system which worked?
Who watches the watchers that are the worst violators?
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I'm watching.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Tim Carmichael wrote: And yet, CodeProject is frequently toxic - review the behavior in the lounge. Toxic behavior is tolerated because of the 'rep' points the posters have.
Oh.. I missed those parts!  
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I used to moderate a gaming board when I was working nights, you'll never be able to completely prevent toxicity online, you can only remove, warn and then ultimately ban repeat offenders.
It's the whole feeling of anonymity that people get online which they think protects them from repercussions (ultimately they're right, there's a limit to what you can do). Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
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JHizzle wrote: Continual trolls (the ones who then re-register) are eventually removed via IP bans only...
Not here, and I've never understood why... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Because that doesn't work for certain parts of the world.
I for instance don't have a fixed IP (at home).
Yes it stays the same for a long time but a simple router reboot (can) change my ip so...
Tom
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True, but it's not a reason not to implement it anyway. It could - if nothing else - kepp SOME of the offenders out... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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And every student in the campus of a single a-hole, every coworker of a single a-hole, every user of the same library of a single a-hole... While that one can simply reboot the router and keep on trolling.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Super Lloyd wrote: What I am investigate is, in the remote possible event where I create my own community website) how to fight the toxicity...
The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that.
Perhaps I demonstrate that point! 
Marc
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Damn, I missed out on the toxic Clifton bits! 
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Marc Clifton wrote: The problem is that the vast majority of people are toxic, and you can't change that.
Not really - put face to face with the persons they're talking about, not many people would behave the same as they do on the net. It's the anonymity that brings out the wurst in people.
You can see it here on CP as well: The members who know each other from daily chit-chat etc treat each other with a reasonable amount of respect (even those who don't like each other all that much), but you can see the same people chew up some innocent newbie with no holds barred.
So because I know you and your reputation, I will definitely refrain from calling you a stupid asshat for the comment you just posted...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Quote: It's the anonymity that brings out the wurst in people.
So you're basically saying anonymity brings out the brats.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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