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arrogant cuss isnt the OP ? makes me want to give up when I get cr@p like that
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Comes with the age and lack of maturity, I guess. When Mommy does everything for you, you don't learn the need to be polite.
It'll get kicked out of him when he gets his first job - particularly if it's in retail or fast food!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Or he goes into management.
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OriginalGriff wrote: OK, it'll be good for us - in a cynical way - as there'll be plenty of work sorting out the Elephant-ups
Think about a situation where one needs medical care and is connected to different kinds of monitors and other hospital equipment... controlled by a fresh, new, just released embedded C program...
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What's the problem? It compiled, so it doesn't have any bugs...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: It compiled That's what I'm afraid of...
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And while you are connected, reading Q/A on CP: "Need Urgent help...."
Then better do not answer: "Have you tried googled"
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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..it is not just the equipment; I'm trying to figure out whether there's something like a "issue tracking" for medication. Can't find any version-information on the package. Imagine those drugs being created using the Agile process.
Scary stuff.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Luckily they have the phases 0-4 in clinical trials and in phase 4 all medication should have fully traceable lot numbers.
But I agree Agile development combined with medical care (in any form) sounds scary
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I think the kid was just a little frustrated and felt offended by not being taken seriously. My first computer is from the time when you had to solder your hardware yourself and I did not have any hair growing in my face yet. What do you think happened when I walked into a store to pick up some RAMs and various other parts?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: to pick up some RAMs
Herk, Herk, it's Daedalus!
No, wait ... nevermind, it's only Polyphemus!
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I built a computer, not a giant abacus. And I'm not that old.
For this[^] I sold all my old toys to the kids in the neighborhood. Whopping 4k RAM. It still works perfectly, but it also taught me that there is no such thing as enough memory in a computer.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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OriginalGriff wrote: development is going to hell in a handbasket when the next generation enter the market?
No, it's not you.
So, recently they hired this kid who comes waltzing in with all his ego and "knowledge." Tells one of the senior developers, he should replace his custom parser (of some fixed length data stream), which the senior guy wrote in 10 lines of code, with some fancypants Python library that the kid has used and is great.
Four days later, fancypants library is still not working, and senior guy tells kid to stop working on it.
And on my end, because perception is everything, the guy who goes by the title of CTO decided to pull me off the hardware abstraction layer I was 90% done with, written in C#. Why? Because another kid they recently hired can't figure out how to get it working, even though there's documentation and example working code. The irony of it is, he's not even working in C#, he's working in Javascript and all he has to do is make the bridge calls to C# and handle the events in the hosted web app.
But, perception being what it is, kid blames the HAL for his ineptitude. Because the CTO guy loves Python, the decision, without even talking to me, was "pull Marc off the HAL" (remember, it's 90% complete) and throw two kids (one of them is from the first story, the other one --this being the third new kid -- is actually pretty sharp and nice) and have them re-architect and implement it in Python.
So, 90% done by 1 senior dev (moi), vs. 0% done and given to two junior devs. Oh, and did I mention that some of the hardware we're talking to only has API's for .NET???
Well, it's a paycheck.
Marc
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Hi Marc,
For some reason, reading this chilling story of ineptitude brought to mind fragments of two of Robert Service's poems. The first four lines of "I Cremated Sam Magee:" (from memory, may be a bit off)
"Strange things are done beneath the midnight sun
by the men who moil for gold;
the Arctic nights have their secret sights
would make your blood run cold."
And (name of the poem escapes my memory): "We came to get rich (damn good reason)."
My mind then segued into "virtually hearing" a country song ... perhaps sung by Loretta Lynn ... titled: "What I do to make the rent." (a fantasy, that: no such actual country song ... that I know of).
So, thanks for the memories, Marc ! i"m going to go outside and scare away the local geckoes and make another cup of hot soy-milk, and then toast your good health, in a few minutes
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: reading this chilling story
Sadly, it's one I've seen repeated, though the actors and plot are different, throughout the 35 years I've worked in this industry. And it isn't industry specific either! Just look at the idiocy of insurance companies dictating what health "care" (and by the time you're in the hospital, it usually isn't "care" anymore, at least not in the curative sense, it should rather be called "death care") can be given.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Because the CTO guy loves Python, We just acquired a very bright spark who specialises in analytics, Python is his flavour of choice so now all projects will be written in Python. I know precisely how you feel but you are NOT allowed to wack the guy with a chair.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: you are NOT allowed to wack the guy with a chair Tells who! I can do to the CTO whatever I like... in any case I would move out at the beginning of the Python age...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: but you are NOT allowed to wack the guy with a chair.
I can't. I work 3000 miles away. Which is a good thing, for my sanity, and their bones.
Marc
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oh Lord I'm getting depressed by this thread
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OriginalGriff wrote: Is it just me that thinks development is going to hell in a handbasket when the next generation enter the market? You got it all wrong...
1. Those "lazy sunshines" will be hired by your (not your exactly ) manager...
2. As the only one not threatening the manager "lazy sunshines" will climb to management position when current manager goes up/out...
3. You will be called back (on an emergency base) to fix the wrong, ang banged around by "lazy sunshines"...
Brave new world...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Never underestimate the power of linker and its remarkable wired error messages
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Fret not; this retard will never make it in "our" industry. I don't worry about idiots like this - neither should you.
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OriginalGriff wrote: maybe I'm just old fashioned, and as long as the code compiles it is correct.
That about sums it up. As I was taught (and still consider gospel), a computer will always do exactly what you tell it to do. It's your job to understand what you told it.
Will Rogers never met me.
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He's a student. Just the Technical University of my city flushes out about 500 Computer Engineers per year, not counting Electronical, Electrical, Mechatronic and Telecommunication Engineers.
Multiply over the world counting the fact that many Univesities have lower ethical standards than mine and you'd have millions of new developers per year - but many of them won't be seeing a IDE or compiler a single time in their working life.
They'll try though, but they will be rejected. We had plenty of wannabee Electronic Engineers applying for a job who couldn't distinguish a resistor from a capacitor. Standard components, not fancy ones.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Ted Has Fly Brain[^]
So that's where marketers come from! I had wondered...
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