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Mark_Wallace wrote: highly educated, trained, and experienced Chinese engineers Never said they were idiots, however
I believe their capacity for reverse engineering (possibly funded by non-Chinese companies)knows no boundries.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Er, yeah, like no engineer in any other country has ever reverse-engineered or been inspired by other people's work.
They ain't aliens from outer space; they're people (and engineers) and they behave just like people (and engineers) from any other country (and bear in mind that it was Chinese engineers and designers who fixed all the problems and filled in the multitude of gaps in apple's rough, marketing-based designs -- I dare say that, just like with every product, a good half of iWhatever design is the creation of the poor sods who have to actually make the damned things).
They're going to kick our @rses good and proper, if we're not smart enough to react well -- and "let's nuke the fackers!" and "Hurh! All they can do is copy!" could hardly be defined as the epitome of reacting well.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: They're going to kick our @rses good and proper, if we're not smart enough to react well -- and "let's nuke the fackers!" and "Hurh! All they can do is copy!" could hardly be defined as the epitome of reacting well.
Did you notice the joke icon?
Just saying!
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Hunh? Do you sign in with different accounts?
I don't believe in icons, anyway, unless you can double-click 'em.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Hunh? Do you sign in with different accounts?
Why do you say that?
The icon was there and you reacted... mmm... forcefully? Just pointed out there was need for a storm in a teacup...
Even though it has nothing to do with me... except the natural instinct for fairness!
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I see no joke icon -- you're not wearing cheap, Chinese knock-off glasses, are you?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Behold[^]!
Someone else's reply to your post with the first "nuke them off comment" and the joke icon!!
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I didn't reply to that (because I'm obviously not as slick as Jimmy Kimmel, who would do best never to go to China). The threadlet I replied on had no joke icons, and was kicked off by a pretty dumb, racist statement.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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RT news... sounds like a reliable place to get unbiased information....
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There are plenty of alternatives all telling the same story!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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That is definitely the best way to confirm it's true.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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US hardware made in China?
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Does it take ten tickles to make a squid laugh?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Wouldn't that be a decapus?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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It takes a big punch to decapus!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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unless they're small and near his eyes, then they are speck tickles.
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What, no up vote? This is gold Jerry. Pure gold.
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It was an octopus last time[^].
And, as I said back then, much like Elmo[^], two of them are only tests.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That one is pretty long in the Architeuthis.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Would one tickle be considered a test tickle?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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If it passes it'll be an up to par tickle proving that it can tickle!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Pisses me off when (in this case, my own project that is being resurrected from 6 years ago) uses third party dependencies from DevExpress and Divelements, and now, trying to install the exact DevExpress version from then, my registration key is no longer valid. And Divelements keeled over in 2013, and of course their online registration doesn't work either. Not to mention that even their DLL, when installing it as "evaluation", does with Invalid pointer compiler error.
Then there's the usual nightmare of .NET version. This code was built with .NET 2.0 and 3.5, neither of which I have installed (I only have 4.5 - 4.6.1), so got to fix all the framework references in a bunch of projects. I suppose there's a utility to do that, maybe even VS2015 has a function for that, but I didn't bother looking.
So far, I've got 2 of the 4 applications running - the server app and the schema designer. The form designer is a b*tch because of the DevExpress and Divelements references, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that upgrading the DX references to their latest works, but I'm a pessimist. The Divelements Sandock thing will be a PITA, I'll probably have to replace it with the open source WeifenLuo docking manager, or, IIRC, .NET exposes their docking system now.
And of course I get a bunch of deprecation warnings on the Oracle .NET references, but the stuff still works. Though figuring out the tnsnames.ora was a blast to the past, NOT!
Word to the wise - when you archive a project, create a VM and put everything there, and make sure it all compiles and builds in the VM. I did that, creating a VM, and the VM still worked, but I appear to never have tried compiling the code. at myself.
Marc
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My only comment: You are a lucky man to handle "only" 6 year old legacy Projects. I Need to handle 14 years old legacy Projects. Please a can of mercy with me
Bruno
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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You have my empathy and sympathy!
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