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I can't understand it... it looks funny to me: LetsMOW.com[^]
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OriginalGriff wrote: Why can't it be like development? At least there you know that if you put in the effort to do a proper job, you won't have to do the same thing again, and again, and again, and .... 
Because you're approaching the problem like a SysAdmin, not like a Dev.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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OriginalGriff wrote: Why can't it be like development?
Just think of gardening like working with a development team. Yank out the weeds, wait a week or two, yank out the weeds again, etc. etc. etc.
At least, as a solo developer, you can say you're doing "organic programming" because the weeds are replenishing the lost nutrients in the soil.
Marc
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Those of us stuck in squalid garrets who would kill to have a garden (and a Mrs Us to make us tend to it) say suck it up, you wimp! 
Just remember there's always someone worse off than you ... and it's usually me!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Here is where you really get to appreciate the wife - she does the cleaning/cooking/laundry etc on a daily cycle. I can't imagine doing a job like that, repeating endlessly the same work over and over again with no hope of reprieve. I know the jobs are essential and I thank Ghu there are people who can do them.
Have sympathy for me, I will be moving from a condo in Singapore to an acreage in Cairn next year so I will get to know the garden really well.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Have sympathy for me, I will be moving from a condo in Singapore to an acreage in Cairn next year so I will get to know the garden really well.
Are you mental? You finally get to move away from the oppressive heat and humidity of Singapore and then choose the oppressive heat and humidity of Cairns.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Yeah yeah I know but I cannot afford and don't like Sydney and the rest of the family is in Cairns. At least it has a little variation, I'm looking forward to the winters where it gets down as low as 24 ah bliss.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Yeah yeah I know but I cannot afford and don't like Sydney and the rest of the family is in Cairns.
I didn't think you would move to Sydney, but thought you may have moved a little further south to allow for things to be a bit cooler and a bit less humid.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: you really get to appreciate the wife - she does the cleaning/cooking/laundry etc on a daily cycle
Nope, we are an equal opportunities familiy!
I.e., These days I do most of the cooking, cleaning, laundry, ironing, and now it would seem the damn gardening as well... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: we are an equal opportunities familiy
Yep I can see this being my situation as well, currently I'm the only one earning so I get let off at home, that is going to change next year
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Could be worse; in Spring, we have sandstorm season. Egypt is returning Sinai to us, 1 million tons at a time... 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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You have my whole-hearted support for that comment! But to be of help, I find the Karcher with the rotary brush attachment a much better way to clean the patio and drive. Neither you nor the surroundings etc. gets covered in detritus. It is easy and clean enough for Her Indoors to want to have a go as well; a request I do not discourage too vigourously.
I also found, many years ago, that an accidently prune of Her Indoor's favourite flowers soon put a stop to having to do any gardening. All I have to do is to cut the lawn, although sometimes I find that she has already cut it for the want of something to do. She just can't sit still until late in the afternoon when she enjoys a cup of tea.
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Cheers! Cleaned my fridge and others things yesterday.
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Please point me to the proper discussion group and I'll head that way.
Item #1: Google does not lead me to the answer
Item #2: YouTube does not lead me to the answer. (YouTube is worse than nothing, those vids are incorrect and misleading)
(Apologies for sensible members here, I needed to be proactive for certain members here who will immediately respond with such inanities.)
The word "FreeCorder" appeared in front of my eyes. When I tried to find a copy (TomsGuide, and the Applian website itself) I am immediately taken to screens which want me to download video application packages.
I just want the audio.
I don't want the video.
Question: Am I going to have to use Audacity ? If so, then I will schedule twenty five hours over the next two months to learn how to do this.
If anyone has a method that actually saves a four minute sound clip in four minutes, I'm very eager to read it.
System Specs
Win'7
AMD Dual Core
WalMart Cheap-O from four years ago.
I am trying to record a four minute sound file.
Opera (the web browser) plays it perfectly.
I have GoldWave.
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Use Audacity. It can record any noise the internet can make. It's free and if you google record youtube with audacity you'll get the hits you need.
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Thanks. If Audacity it must be, then Audacity it shall be.
Not the worst thing that could happen on my computer.
Oh, heads up for FreeCorder.
They spend so much effort on trying to sell their PayCorder that I lost interest due to the extreme obfuscation which they inject on the victim ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H user and abandoned the software before I ever used it.
i.e., "FreeCorder" is bait and switch. Don't click. Don't download. Don't install.
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Used Ninite to install it, and guessed what to click.
Estimated learning curve: 10 minutes.
Audacity just recorded the audio in question.
So, Audacity it is.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: Am I going to have to use Audacity ? If so, then I will schedule twenty five hours over the next two months to learn how to do this.
I used Audacity a couple of times some years ago. The only thing I did besides hitting the record-button was to adjust the recording volume to avoid amplitude clipping. It wasn't exactly "install 'n record" but definitely far less prep time than you fear.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sascha Lefèvre wrote: definitely far less prep time than you fear.
You are correct.
Ninite, click click, and walk away.
Came back, spent two or three minutes, and correctly guessed how to record from the "speakers".
So, you were correct, nothing like I expected.
I was highly surprised at how deeply GoldWave has hidden its ability to record from the sound card.
If it can do this, I wasn't able to find it.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: I was highly surprised at how deeply GoldWave has hidden its ability to record from the sound card.
Assuming you were replying to me, I thought I ought to have a look myself: well, it was a bit unclear, even after reading help:
1. Create a new empty file
2. Select Options>Control properties, and under the record tab select 'Monitor input' - then you can see if any signal is seen. Under device tab, select record device (probably audio input).
3. Now the VU meter should show any sound signal (I played music with Media player). Get record levels low enough.
4. Press red 'record' button and you are off...
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mngerhold wrote: Under device tab, select record device (probably audio input).
That does not appear on my screen.
Clicking Help then About tells me that my version is 6.23
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Well, I could not believe that the feature had been dropped since my vn (5.1), so downloaded and installed the latest (v6.23) on to my W7 PC, and it appears much the same as v5.1. I grabbed screen shots of the Control properties window,, but don't know how to post them here (probably not allowed, although they are only 20 & 30 kB PNG files). I have turned on private replies in case that lets you email me directly for the screen shots.
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I have replied with a private message, but don't seem to be able to confirm that anything was sent. Here is the link to hopefully 2 shared files:
[two pngs]
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C-P-User-3 wrote: I just want the audio.
I don't want the video.
Assuming you're bringing this up because you already have the means to record video along with the audio you want...you could always use that and then just use something that can extract the audio.
Even Winamp will do that - right-click an MP4 (or whatever), Send To, Format Converter, MP3.
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If I had your brains I wouldn't feel so stupid right now.
Thanks. Perfect idea.
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