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Mark_Wallace wrote: but if a master pianist intentionally plays badly, it's hilarious
Made me think of this[^]
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Exactly! Victor Borge, God rest his soul, was exactly the kind of genius I had in mind.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: If a painter, for example, can't paint a skillful and admirable realistic representation of a [whatever], then he is not the person to paint it in abstract, and should be scorned for doing so.
Why not.
Technical ability is not a necessity for a piece of art to be meaningful (achieve emotional response, which is what art should be) to people;
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maximilien wrote: In what way is he right
In about every single word. But that's my opinion, you're of course entitled to your own.
Maximilien wrote: He is simply insulting for sake of being insulting.
I disagree, he's simply calling a spade a spade.
I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: I just hope the "artist" paid for the travels himself or had a sugardaddy paying it for him.
Why do you care if it is privately donated money? everyone is free to do as he please with his money 
Most work of art were and are paid by patrons[^].
Most governments also give out grants to artists the same way they give out grants to scientists and industries.
Publicly funded arts bolster the UK economy, study finds | Culture | The Guardian[^]
I'd rather be phishing!
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I agree with Griff. IMHO, this is not art, this is a colossal waste of time and human effort.
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If he got in the hole and they threw the dirt back in over him...now that would be art! 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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I don't get it, he digs a hole, then sits / stands in it and that's "art"?
By that definition we are all artists, I'm pretty sure we all at one point during our lives did that (at the beach, during renovations, ...)
I'm sure it's me that doesn't understand the profound meaning of this...
Tom
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If that's art then Golf is a sport
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Some guy once put a urinal in a museum[^] and called it art.
The worst part is that, in artistic circles, it's a highly esteemed work of art.
And what about John Cage who sat on stage, behind his piano, and did absolutely nothing for a good four minutes[^].
Said he "composed silence"...
As it happens I have a bachelor in Common Art and Cultural Sciences.
The bachelor is pretty cool (it's about "what is art", "what drives artists", "how does art shape society and/or vice versa"), the arts not so much
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The problem is that we are (collectively) rich enough to be able to support such wastes of oxygen without counting the cost. In some cases, such support even comes from the public purse!
In earlier times they would never have found patrons, and would therefore have either starved in their garrets or had to work for their livings.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Some people couldn't have a genuinely original thought if they were left to do nothing but try for twenty years.
Plenty of people are willing to say that every mindless, pointless idea they have is great and creative, though -- especially when other people later see meanings in the "work" that the "artist" hadn't thought of.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It is a fun piece of art; I like it.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Because, 2017 is the year when, Fifty Shades Darker gets released. 
By the way, how many of you have already watched Civil War? I am having a huge list of movies to watch after my exams, after 20th this month.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Is 'Tucker & Dale vs. Evil' on the list?
Worth watching! 
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Only if you had a doozy of a day.
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U. G. Leander wrote: Is 'Tucker & Dale vs. Evil' on the list?
Really very funny movie. Someone mentioned in on-line that should avoid trailer(I rarely watch movie trailers) of movie before watching movie. He was right 100%. Favorite movie from this genre.
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Wow. Must be very different over where you live.
For me, there's not been a decent movie in years - stories that insult one's intelligence and lots of special effects. Add in to the mix some remakes and sequels. It's gotten so bad I've taken to streaming old Dick Tracy Serials[^].
Well - at least there's Full Frontal With Samantha Bee (but that's not a movie, either).
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: For me, there's not been a decent movie in years - stories that insult one's intelligence and lots of special effects.
Not agree with that.
There have been good films in the last years. I agree with the "blockbusters" but there still is some quality up and a while.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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I think you should try indie/low budget films for a change like Safety Not Guaranteed, Half nelson, Fish tank, 11:14, etc., I could make you a list.
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Actually, I have a smallish source of independently made films on a streaming station. It's forte is movies (shorts: 5-20 min) and advertising that will definitely not make it to (US) TV or theaters.
But, then, I still find little to nothing in terms of creativity in the main-stream. Not like in "Days of Yore" where there such movies as "A Clockwork Orange", "Blazing Saddles", "Apocalypse Now", and "Easy Rider" to name a few off the top of my head.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: Civil War?
The Marvel one? Anything Marvel should be avoided.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You say 'escapist drivel' and 'populist tripe' like they're a bad thing.
Software Zen: delete this;
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If you liked Winter Soldier, you may try this one
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Saw Civil War in the opening weekend. Thoroughly enjoyed it - all except for Martin Freeman and the worst parody of an accent since "Awrayight Merry Poppins" was unleashed on an unsuspecting world. Americans, I apologise to you - you have many fine actors, but apparently the best choice for an American was a hobbit.
This space for rent
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