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Richard Deeming wrote: And I still think you need more
Yup. I struck out my comment with an appropriate response.
Sigh. I will now go back to the django/ubuntu/python crap I'm working on, tail between my legs.
Marc
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incorrect omission or inclusion of apostrophes (or spaces) does not constitute a spelling mistake. Nor is it a grammatical error. High time that so-called grammar pedants learned that a lot (quite possibly the majority) of what they complain about isn't grammar at all!
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The Wikipedia page for 'pedant' has been edited more than 500 times. 
Bloody grammar-pedant-pedants, spoiling all our fun...
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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9082365 wrote: incorrect omission or inclusion of apostrophes (or spaces) does not constitute a spelling mistake. Nor is it a grammatical error.
Atcherley, it does/is. Spaces and apostrophes were deemed characters long before computers existed, and hold the same level of importance as alphanumeric characters.
If you make that kind of mistake when writing professionally, you need your @rse kicking, because it inhibits the understanding of the reader.
9082365 wrote: Nor is it a grammatical error. High time that so-called grammar pedants learned that a lot (quite possibly the majority) of what they complain about isn't grammar at all!
Absolutely.
But the big mouths who cause problems are the ones who barely know what they're talking about.
I couldn't count the number of times I've laughed in the face of people I've forced to explain how 12 is not "less" than 20, in their world, or how "each" suddenly means "two" and "one" suddenly means "many", if placed before "other".
A little learning, and all that.
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Atcherley, it doesn't. It's an orthographic error, which is neither spelling nor grammar. No doubt at all that it's a serious failing but then I never said it wasn't. It just doesn't come under the heading that people (including you, it now appears) give it.
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Orthography has got bugger all to do with linguistics; it's just a "how to" in writing things down.
Us linguists point and laugh at orthographic specialists.
Punctuation is enveloped by semantics, syntax, and even morphology, to a degree.
Calling it orthography is like saying that how the brain works is psychology (which is not a science) rather than biology, chemistry, and Physics (which are sciences).
Morphology Ha! (spits). The sociology of language use.
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You're absolutely right. Orthography has nothing to do with linguistics. The apostrophe has nothing to do with linguistics either because it is purely an orthographical device completely incidental to language and totally unrelated to grammar, which serves the purpose only of disambiguation of writing in the absence of tonal and stressing clues provided in speech.
Nobody speaks apostrophes or any other punctuation come to that. A properly formed written sentence does not become magically ungrammatical because you leave the punctuation out. Indeed all the primary classical languages such as Latin and Greek were written for centuries with no punctuation at all and, in the case of Hebrew, without vowels to boot. Sanskrit survived without punctuation until the 17thC, Chinese, Korean and Japanese, until the 20thC. The introduction of punctuation to any of these did not represent any change or in these languages merely a shift in formal orthography. One could very well argue that the bulk of punctuation, even in English, remains entirely superfluous. The extreme abbreviation and lack of punctuation in modern textspeak, certainly does nothing to make the case for it. 'CU l8tr' is grammatically identical to 'See you later!' and every bit as comprehensible. It simply fails to meet the arbitrary demands of formal orthography.
Omission of an apostrophe is an orthographic error, wholly and solely. And no amount of self-important blustering from linguistics 'experts' can alter that!
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You are aware that formal grammar is about the written word, not the spoken, aren't you?
I'm afraid you've climbed your way up onto the "little learning" pile.
You really should look at the pedigree of the people you attack, before you dive in.
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(edit) nothing to see here, move along..
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
modified 30-Mar-16 9:56am.
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Which was the whole point of my post. 
Peter wrote, "In less then 3 hours..."
I changed the title of my reply to, "In less than 3 hours...".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Uhh.. somehow I thought you changed the the title of his original message to what it now is.
Nevermind, time for more ![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif)
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sascha Lefèvre wrote: Nevermind
<Gramma Natzi>That's not a word!</Gramma Natzi>
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shush! 
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Sascha Lefèvre wrote: shush!
Remarkably, that is a word!
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I do know some 
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Looks like you need more coffee too: see my reply to Sascha[^], above. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: Looks like you need more coffee too:
 I thought you changed the title of his post.
Marc
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At about the same time I will be at the dentist getting new teef.
veni bibi saltavi
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Which is probably less painful...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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What happened? Did you run against a fist when you turned around a corner? Was it deserved or not?
We need more details!
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: What happened?
I didn't look after the ones I had and they were so rotten I needed 3 out, 14 fillings and two implants. Today is the start of the implants.
BRUSH YOUR TEEF DUDES!
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: and two implants
Dont't let them give you anything bigger than C cups.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Ah. That'll be why so many mouthwashes are alcohol based then! 
It's not the alcohol but acidic flavourings thereof!
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