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our information is never secure in the web
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They still have to give your information to the US government, and you cannot trust the US government.
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Any service provider will make use of whatever information I intentionally or unintentionally provide them. They will use it for their profit and to a certain extent improve my experience of their services.
Now all of this is somewhere in that terms and conditions page which most of us do not bother to read. If you want to save your information, you probably need to get rid of internet connection, bank accounts, credit cards, phone and all kinds of IDs that you may have. Also stop getting out of your house since there are CCTV cameras almost everywhere and they know where you go.
I think we are getting too paranoid. If you are worried about a picture of your on internet misused to show you as or associated with something you are not, consider this: You are at a store, someone with camera phone takes picture of you discretely and posts it on internet. This picture can then travel through numerous nodes and end up depicting something that did not existed originally.
Didn't his used to happen before internet? I would assume people then were using telephone directories to get numbers to make marketing calls.
"You'd have to be a floating database guru clad in a white toga and ghandi level of sereneness to fix this goddamn clusterfuck.", BruceN[ ^]
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... that I trust any of them with my data????
Why is there no "I don't trust any of them" option??
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Becuz, apparently, they don't trust us to answer the question as such so their secret "Hey, at least they trust us 'a little bit'" spin on the outcome is arrived at. 
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Kevin Marois wrote: Why is there no "I don't trust any of them" option??
because they have become too big to be dropped.
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Now that's interesting. Intel certainly *could* collect personal data (on a low CPU/GPU level), but it's likely their sales would break down if they did. Now, why should they? I guess Intel makes more cash from selling Hardware rather than personal data, especially when compared to MS.
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must be from AMD people because there is no AMD  
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I trust Facebook not to spread/abuse my personal data for sure. They aint have it. 
(yes yes yes they are tracking "users" with banners/cookies on countless sites but that is not on a strictly personal level)
Life is too shor
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Just making sure you are aware of shadow profiles, where someone could have your details stored on their phone.
Social network reads all contacts/messages
You don't have an account on their network, but they see you exist
Create a shadow profile on you.
The more of your friends have info on you, the more info they get.
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ha... That's why I don't have friends!
(Well, that's not why, but it sure makes it look intentional now!) 
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A touch more on the shadow network concept.
gmail terms of service allow them to keep your mail and do whatever they want with it for as long as they want to.
OK - so you (and I) don't have gmail. So what. If you ever send email to anyone with gmail, or they send mail to you, a data point is generated with, effectively, your name on it. Another one to another person and they've two points. That, along with the CC's and probably BCC's.
Now they can build up quite a profile on you by implication of common acquaintances.
CP is the closest I come to belonging to a social network. The only other minor difference I can put up is that I can use a different email address for pretty much all the business I transact and give different personal information to everyplace.
Obfuscation is the best you can hope for. To what extent it works - I don't actually know, except my experience w/spam, etc., if extremely low. That, and I punish places that sell my email address to others.
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No trust at all , because we don't know what they will do with our data.
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+10000000!
They never say about any "hidden discussions" with FBI/gov/etc. Apple said, but we have no any log/video from that session so we cannot say for sure "Apple didn't lie under".
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Right. Anything other than the all "1"s I chose is fanciful thinking at best. Of course, it doesn't mean we shouldn't use these services, its just they are not to be blindly trusted - and blind is the only option we have.
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Yep, pretty much equal distrust across the board.
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Seems a lot of people do not trust anyone. What do you have to hide? What are you worried about them doing with your data?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Having it accessed/having it leaked. These days even the notion that a company's data has somehow been compromised can end up destroying that company.
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But if you keep it yourself it can still be access/leaked. Perhaps the challenge is finding the right company to store your data, since they should be better experts than we are at security. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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If your data is stored alomg with several million others, it makes a more tempting target than if you keep it yourself and trust no-one.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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I would guess that the majority of us have nothing to hide, today. But what happens when it becomes a crime to be a member of a certain political party or religious group? Suddenly, those pictures of you at a rally or event can be used against you. Suddenly it does matter because at that moment you do have something to hide but are unable to.
Anything posted, stored, shared, etc. on the Internet should be viewed as public information, no matter what type of "security" you think you have in place.
Any cloud provider, under the right circumstances, will gladly hand over your data to the authorities.
My .02
Sincerely,
-Mark
mamiller@rhsnet.org
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Mark Miller wrote: or religious group?
Some would say we're already there for Christians. A topic for the soapbox.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm guessing you don't lock your car doors or the doors to your house?
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Albert Holguin wrote: I'm guessing you don't lock your car doors or the doors to your house?
No, I outsource that to Amazon Lock Services. They come and lock my doors for me. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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