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Maybe Shanana worked for Microsoft at the time? 
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Whilst checking out MVC6 recently (which I think is brilliant and took no time to get up and running with) I had the misfortune to have to faff around with some CSS again. I rarely go near it and only have painful experiences of trying to do anything useful with it. Took about 3 hours to get my head around MVC6 and create a new site and about the same to try and solve (unsuccessfully) a single CSS issue.
Am I right in thinking that to be good at CSS one of the main requirements is that you've been through the pain of solving a million different layout and browser problems?
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Google can be your friend. A List Apart: For People Who Make Websites[^] is a good resource for CSS.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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One problem with trying to find help with CSS problems is that there are sometimes a dozen different ways to achieve an effect/layout but not all methods work everywhere, and may break or be deprecated in the near future. Weeding through all the irrelevant stuff and trying different solutions makes you a better developer. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I was working for a company 15 years ago that cared mostly about how each of their websites looked as they saw it as the profit engine. They didn't care about coding standards or security, just look and feel. They wanted things to be laid out exactly to their specifications. I would sit for hours making little changes to my CSS and clicking refresh. I learned CSS that way and even with CSS 3, things have not changed much.
CSS is worth learning because like SQL, it doesn't change much and once you learn it, you know it for life.
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jgakenhe wrote: CSS is worth learning because like SQL, it doesn't change much and once you learn it, you know it are scarred for life.
FTFY
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With CSS, I think of it as stacks and boxes. If I add bizarre layouts with tables, I'm just begging for it. The box model in CSS (margin, border, padding, width) is what gets me. The key is to keep it simple. It's also mobile friendly too. 
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I don't care what discipline, the old guy with the years on his face has seen it before.
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Having as a consultant tried to salvage two companies that had coded black holes inside their paper bags, and repeating the experience as an employee in a company managed by those that saw competence as a threat, I would have to agree that you learn a lot in suffering through the process of trying to save people from their mistakes. It's far more efficient than making all the mistakes yourself.
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At the moment we have a little icon next to our name when we post, showing the highest award we have been given: "Member", "Professional", or "Protector" perhaps.
I've just glance at two QA questioners I'm dealing with and one has 137 questions / 136 comments / 3 answers, and the other 100 questions / 128 comments and nothing else. (And those three answers? They are two additions to his own question, and one "thanks"  )
Perhaps we need a special award for these people: "Help Vampire" perhaps? Or "Holding down a job despite knowing nothing" maybe? (Or am I just being a Grumpy Old Griff because one of my brake pipes burst when I hit the brakes this morning?)
What do you think?
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OriginalGriff wrote: because one of my brake pipes burst when I hit the brakes this morning?
Now we know how old you really are. 
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I was feeling a little "old" at that point, yes...
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OriginalGriff wrote: one of my brake pipes burst when I hit the brakes this morning
Are you sure you didn't hit the "break" pedal by mistake? 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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OriginalGriff wrote: What do you think?
Meh. Get a life. 
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I think a Dumbass of the day award would be fitting.
New version: WinHeist Version They all laugh at me because I'm different; I laugh at them because they're all the same. Kurt Cobain
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OriginalGriff wrote: one of my brake pipes burst
Maybe it was an accident, or maybe you annoyed someone in QA...
veni bibi saltavi
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But this site is intended to be help for programmers, right?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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The keyword here being "programmers". It's sometimes hard to distinguish the genuine programmers from the parasites.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Or am I just being a Grumpy Old Griff
Grumpy is good, do NOT go quietly into the sunset.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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If crude oil is made from decomposed dinosaurs, and plastic is made from oil, then aren't plastic dinosaurs made from real dinosaurs?
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I've actually thought about this before. This, and the fact that we quantify engine power with horsepower, despite the fact that your car runs with oil/gasoline and not glue. 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Colin Mullikin wrote: we quantify engine power with horsepower
Good point!
Perhaps we should reclassify engines into Raptorpower?
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That seems like the prudent decision.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Not as good as yesterdays. 
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