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I happen to be pretty hard nosed, and thick skinned. Technically an adult. I've already written my program in VBA and am learning Python.
1v1 me bro.
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PythonHeadBanger wrote: I happen to be pretty hard nosed, and thick skinned. Technically an adult. I've already written my program in VBA and am learning Python.
1v1 me bro.
Laughs. Thanks for that, here catch a vote. (1v1 me bro.)
Syntactical white-space should be against the geneva convention, I gave up on python a decade ago, for this and other reasons. The fact that its the scripting language of Blender is the only reason I ever bothered with it. NumPy is quite nice, but not quite enough to make it worthwhile for me.
Pick a time and a place my friend. I taught myself Turbo Pascal while in detention in high-school and moved on to x86 assembly from there. In uni, people asked me more questions than the lecturer in programming class.
Your turn! 
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#HeadBangerWREKT
I will look into Blender as that seems like some pretty cool stuff. Thanks for the heads up.
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I always love a good-sport.  
Yeah, Blender was pretty damn good when I used it last, at around version 2.49 or so. Around the time that the interface changed for v 2.50, I no longer needed it for day-day work, it's well worth the buy-in price ($0)
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I've never liked SO. I've been downright attacked and insulted in response to perfectly acceptable questions.
I agree 100% with the article.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I once contributed to the site. The positive feedback mechanism of points for helping is rather addictive. But, I've come to see a common pattern. That those who don't want to learn go there for copy-paste code. I find myself avoiding Stack Overflow, it is better to read the docs instead.
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I second the article, did very well on experts exchange 'in the old days' until amongst other reasons it closed itself in a way. I see wannebees that are hunting points inflating the qualtity of it all, and that is not just on stack overflow unfortunately. Too bad.
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I'm reluctant to post questions on SO, despite having 18 years experience as a software developer. There is definitely an elitist mindset amongst many who post over there. Downvoting is common even for sensible questions, and it is very competitive in terms of gaining rep points.
As an example, I posted a question on there a couple of months ago. We've just begun looking into using TeamCity as our Continuous Integration server. I have a lot of previous experience with CruiseControl.NET so am not some noobie. I understand the theory and concepts, so just wanted some general guidance on approaches to configuring TeamCity with TFS. So my question was open-ended as I was looking for advice and guidance.
I checked my question later at lunch time to find that it had been downvoted twice and closed - "Question closed as vague and cannot be answered”. I had to delete the question for fear of losing more rep points.
CP is a far more welcoming and helpful place to visit, and I want to see that continuing. CP is (IMO) the best technical resource on the Internet by a long way
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare
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I find myself in the same position as you - petty downvoting appears to be the norm at stackoverflow.
Which was why after a week of creating an account, I had closed it.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Sorry, but ... I never thought that it should be useful for beginners ... 
Cheers,
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I don't ask questions - I read documentation. The only reason in my company we asked for unlocking CP and SO is that MSDN redirects here or there in most of the search results.
That bein said, EVERY time I clicked on a SO answer I did not only NOT get what I wanted but read many flaming / useless answers and the common "what are you trying to do is the wrong way" (I know but it's the only one I have access to so answer me or shut up), "the technology you're using is outdated" (I know that too I must stick to that so answer or shut up) ans d so on.
Here I normally find at least an article covering it, sometimes even an answered question - having been in the dreaded Linux forums I know it is a rare occasion indeed.
Regarding the behaviour of some high-rep users here closing or downvoting beginners question I find it on the very limit of abuse - if a question has been already answered or there are article covering it at least link to them, and do it nicely. Most poeple cannot Google their way out because they DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO ASK. You can help them or smear them - if you do the latter remember that karma is a bit and it's always behind the corner.
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I created an account on stack overflow and found all my answers were downvoted or heavily criticised for what amounted to petty reasons.
While on codeproject I tend to find that people are much more appreciative of help.
My take on stackoverflow is that it has been taken over by petty minded people who will downvote low-status members no matter how good their answers are - this then helps maintain their own position in their petty hierarchy.
The problem with this is that stackoverflow is replete with good answers that have been downvoted and decent questions that are closed because they don't meet some weird criteria set on the basis of the fiat of some cliquey in-group.
So while as a source stackoverflow is fairly decent - as a community it simply sucks!
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I both like and dislike stack exchange. I think the community is to harsh. Nowadays I might be to blame but when I got a small problem that I'm having trouble to explain or just need some quick answers/directions I use stack exchange. Just to have a baited hook in the sea. But I do try to explain my current question as detailed as possible as well as what research I've done.
If it's something bigger where I also have a greater chance of bettering myself I use CP. Mainly because of the community.
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"77% of users only ask one question"
That must get really repetitive and annoying.
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To which the answer is obviously 42.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Thank you for sharing this!
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I'm scared, that fiva get more attention, than IS...  ^infinitely
Sepp Blatter vs. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi & Bin Laden^-1..... 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Yes the "Fédération Internationale des Véhicules Anciens" needs a thorough overhaul.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 3-Dec-15 19:48pm.
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yes because fiva is that dangerous compared to IS....I don't know how to Show the Symbol, but it is one Hand showing one finger.... 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Well I've been back from my 4 day canoe trip on the Suwanee River and had a ball. Took a lot of pictures and started putting them on Flickr for all that care to see what the river looks like. clickity[^]
New version: WinHeist Version You didn't fall from the stupid tree you got dragged through the whole dumbass forest.
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Mike, do you spend a lot of time setting up each photo or do you just have a great camera- or both!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I have a good camera! Sometimes I set up for a shot and sometimes I just shoot the shot so I don't miss it and hope I can photoshop it if it doesn't turn out just the way I want it. It was hard setting up shots in the canoe because the Suwanee have a pretty good current in places so it was shoot the shot or miss it!
New version: WinHeist Version You didn't fall from the stupid tree you got dragged through the whole dumbass forest.
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Looks fantastic.
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Yup. That's a river all right!
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Looks like I very well may be heading that way and would like to know all about it from a tech standpoint.
Jeremy Falcon
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