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Its a difficult situation to be in, but how do you know nobody from your place visits the Lounge?
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Quite simply put you can state that they are not to follow references until an offer is made.
If after an offer is made they decide that the references are of concern they can follow this up with you(if you lied then this would be an acceptable reason for withdrawing the offer) - any company that treats you in any other manner is not one worth working for in my opinion.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Recently I had a similar experience; I told them that I could give no reference since I didn't warn the company before a formal offer and they accepted my point of view. The new company is swiss based.
'Just because nobody complains doesn't mean all parachutes are perfect.'
Benny Hill
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For me that risk would be too high.
I suggest you start backing away slowly.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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I've never had this happen to me...just tell them "Thanks, but no thanks". It might make them reconsider if they really want you, or you might have to stick to your guns and give the position up.
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The problem is HR and the department I'll be working for operate totally independent, HR have these rigid policies and processes.
This makes me reconsider if I really want to work for a big corporate.
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If a company values policies more than people, you should pass!
Hogan
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This could be a complex situation where your country's labor/employment laws come into play, or where your future company's legal paranoia comes into play; so I don't think there's any simple/easy generalizations that may be useful here.
I would suggest you contact the person (not in HR) who (implicitly) made the offer of employment after/during your interviews, and express your opinion that while you are completely confident your references will be satisfactory, and you look forward to employment with the company/team, you have (very reasonable) concerns about the possible side-effects of their checking your references before a "final" offer is made.
I'd try to make that person (non HR) feel like you are doing the kind of "due diligence" any reasonable person would do, and that you are asking for their assistance to clarify what HR will do.
Another thought: if you must deal directly with HR, I'd try to meet with them in person, and in that encounter express your enthusiasm for your future employment. In other words, try to be very careful you don't express "antagonism" in any way for what they, quite possibly, are forced to by company policy.
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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Thanks for the advice, I did as you suggested and it actually worked. I will now have an offer in hand before any of my references receive calls.
Officially totally worth the risk posting it here!
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I'm delighted to hear the outcome was successful !
Congratulations on your new job, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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References or referrals? I always react suspiciously to such blackmail and probably for good reason.
I would tell them that there was an interview and if they are interested they could make you an offer, references or not, otherwise good luck.
it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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I don't know which part of the world you are in. I recently changed a job and in process I made it clear that I was not willing to share my current employers contacts. There was on company who wants to include but I told them it will be a deal breaker for me and they relented.
Try to understand if that is must have or nice to have deal and set your own conditions. If you are not willing to give them, tell them it is a deal breaker, unless you don't want to loose the opportunity. In that case you are stuck.
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Here is today's FSOW OTD. It's an easy one, hope you guys get it 
It ain't too late right? 
(`o-)
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Looks like a clock - but doesn't fit 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
modified 27-Oct-15 4:28am.
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As he hasn't stated the number of letters how do you know ? Also it does fit 
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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5 symbols, means 5 letters...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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CLOCK XD
although someone thought it aint gonna fit
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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Someone's thought was right actually, and yours too.
It was a CLOCK basically but his dad named him as TIMER
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Maybe WATCH
or TIMER
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yep, TIMER is the right answer.
Congo, you're up for 28th October Two K and Fifteen
modified 27-Oct-15 6:58am.
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Aren't you supposed to state the amount of letters ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Counting has come a bit out of fashion, hasn't it?
I just tried and it came out about fiveish.
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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I got 4.75 - but one of my fingers is a lot shorter than the others.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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No need for this kind of precision here.
4,75 looks kind of fiveish to me.
If I look at it out of the corner of my eye it definitely looks fiveish!
Cheers!
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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I don't have the time for that
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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