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Presumably due to the screwed up patching I was grumbling about yesterday[^], between the service host process hosting BITSm, CcmExec, and MsMpEng, and two processes for software center itself; their failed efforts to patch my box are hogging about 3.6/8gb of my ram. Mad | :mad:

At least this explains why my system running sludge slow when I knew I didn't have that much stuff open. Mad | :mad:

I really pity my non-technical coworkers who only have 4gb of ram though. Cry | :((

Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius

Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt

I ahve 2 GB and only because I stole 1 GB from a machine that has been lended to me indefinetely. Someday someone may ask me to return it and then I'll have 1 GB of RAM again.

Think of 2 VS2008 instances running, one debuggng the other (I was developing an add-on) with only a single, meager GB of RAM.

GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

I assume you're only still working there because several years later you're still waiting for Word to finish loading so you can update your resume. OMG | :OMG:

Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius

Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt

Usually we work with Visual Basic 6 and Visual C++ 6, so performance are rarely a problem. In 2012 they were planning to switch to VS2008 (always on the cutting edge $Shucks | :-\$ ) but having 600+ projects to mantain under VS6 and several idiosincrasies between syntax and include files, coupled with a stubborn coworker (we are two teams of two and I'm the younger one, so a single developer is a force to be reckoned with) made the change both impossible and too damn late to be useful.

GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

But on the plus side, the VB6 runtimes still ship with Win10...you still have several years to migrate to .NET! Laugh | :laugh:

"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

We ship the runtime with pur software... And the software is shipped with the whole machinery :P we make industrial inspection machines for food & beverage, so the first deployment is never a problem, we install the software on the core PC in house. Updates on the other way... Dead | X|

Also we just started to support Win7, for the more demanding customers (aka those who have internal polcies), otherwise we stick to Windows XP - consider that passing to Win7 already costed us a lot because our old and reliable acquisition boards had to be changed due to lack of drivers Dead | X|

GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

den2k88 wrote:
we stick to Windows XP

Do you use boards that don't have ethernet or any way to add it, or do you save time for your customers by pre-loading the OS with a menegerie of malware that exploits foreverday bugs in the EoL OS?

Dead | X|

Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius

Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt

Are you kidding, right? Who'd put sensitive core business as QA of a production line over the net? The few machines that are connected over Internet in order to have remote maintenance are connected to VPNs. Also we provide an antivirus.

Those are embedded systems not servers or workstation, ideally the only communication with the machine should occur by PLC. Nobody in the sane world puts machines that control the production lines over the net accessible "urbi et orbi"!

GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

When a clueless auditor and a clueless PHB realize they've got unpatched boxes and/or boxes whose OS licenses can't be verified by the automatic network scanning tools because they're not networked...

Or when the bored operator plugs in a network cable so he can screw around on the internet without having to go back to his desk or get his phone out of his pocket.

If you can gaurantee they'll never be attached to the internet, never being patched probably doesn't matter (although ask the Iranians about Stuxnet Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

); but I'll bet on human stupidity every time.

Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius

Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt

Normally in production lines there is an almost militaristic control of what happens - tampering with the equipment could cost days of lost production. We still have Win2000 machines up and running in several plants.

Dan Neely wrote:
Or when the bored operator plugs in a network cable so he can screw around on the internet without having to go back to his desk or get his phone out of his pocket.

We have an antivirus on every machine, plus this kind of behavior brings trouble to the operator due to misconduct, not to us. The machine is sealed, it must be treated as an embedded system.

Dan Neely wrote:
When a clueless auditor and a clueless PHB realize they've got unpatched boxes and/or boxes whose OS licenses can't be verified by the automatic network scanning tools because they're not networked...

Then they patch it, break drivers, stand with uninspected (impossible to sell in many cases) production for several days until a qualified technician restores the machine and gets fired. It happened several times in the past, it's not happening anymore... I wonder why Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

Those machines are almost never attached even to the company LAN and the very few customer who do so have strong network policies so that teh machine is off-line. When they are connected to a LAN they are usually on isolated special purpose LANs.

GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver

"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey

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Doesn't display quite like it did when I wrote it - but there you go, no time to do another!

It shouldn't need a clue ...

PooperPig - Coming Soon

Ok, I will bite: "Parallel"?

I ain't got no signature.

Told you it wouldn't need a clue!

you're up tomorrow!

PooperPig - Coming Soon

Burn the spoiler! Laugh | :laugh:

You have just been Sharapova'd.

Solved within 3 Minutes Dead | X|

Rules for the FOSW ![^]

if(this.signature != "")
{
    MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
    MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}

He said He'll bite.

And he bit very hard Sigh | :sigh:

Why not? Should be solved as soon as you know the answer, unless you want the real winner to be the 12th person to get it, but just happened to post after 20 mins.

Nono, it's just fine Smile | :)

Rules for the FOSW ![^]

if(this.signature != "")
{
    MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
    MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}

I think i should rename the FOSW to FSOW so ppl don't always display it wrong, no offense against you Maxxx, everybody does that mistake Smile | :)

Rules for the FOSW ![^]

if(this.signature != "")
{
    MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
    MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}

modified 20-Oct-15 6:01am.

I do it on purpose. Sorry. Big Grin | :-D

So isn't it FSOW ??? OMG | :OMG:

I always thought it was FSOW. Don't know how it appears to be when I post it cause I always copy the title from one posted very last day, then change the date Big Grin | :-D

See the rules in my sig, see the posts that are examples, i see FOSW :P

Rules for the FOSW ![^]

if(this.signature != "")
{
    MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
    MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}

Now that I see it carefully, with full concentration, wide opening my eyes, it seems FOSW to me too Wink | ;)

I think I'm going to change my name to Maxx so ppl always do't type it wrong. Big Grin | :-D

PooperPig - Coming Soon

oh dear i'm really sorry Unsure | :~

Rules for the FOSW ![^]

if(this.signature != "")
{
    MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
    MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}

	No - absolutely nothing to report
	Maybe. Or it could have just been the nylon carpet
	A little. (and please share the details)
	Yes, a lot. (and we absolutely need details!)
	Geomagnetic what?

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