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It's also close to the physical limits for a clock that size, I'm told. I fail to find a reference at the moment.
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I have a Seiko self-winding watch that gains or loses 5 minutes a day.
Forty years ago, you had self-winding watches that wound their springs with any inadvertent movement of the wrist. And they kept perfect time.
I have been told to pick up my watch with my right hand and shake it violently 12-16 times and for good measure wind the spring up with an equal number of turns.
If I do that, the watch gains maybe a minute or two a day as opposed to losing several minutes a day.
To think that it cost $600! A $10 electronic watch keeps better time than this crap!
And this piece of sh!t has 31 days in a month as the standard. So I have to manually adjust the date 5 times a year too!
Somebody ought to teach the Japanese that old rhyme:
Thirty days hath September
April, June and November
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modified 6-Oct-15 17:26pm.
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Yeah but can you play Astroids on it? Uh-huh I thought not!
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$21,000. Wink | 
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Buy a good one, you'll pay less Dmn fine watches[^]
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If the BOM+ cost* for this is around $1000, the remaining $20,000 is for the Seiko brand.
So, Brand value = 20 * BOM+ value.
Aside, which other products have higher Brand/BOM+ ratio?
* including labour, overheads, etc.
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Like 700 of my current watch, shipping included. I love wristwatches, I have one since I was six and at age 10 I abandoned the cheap plastic wristband in favor of steel ones.
When I was 14 my dad bought me a wonderful auto-winding Citizen, it costed 100$ and was pretty precise - about 20 sec/day which is very little compared to the supposed infinite life of the watch (after all he was wearing a 15 years old Seiko and used it at work, he's been both a truck driver and a mechanic so it was abused a lot and was still perfect. Also batteries cost 10$ each  ).
Well, 3 years later the mechanic was elephanted up and the clock face rotated in place so the 12th hour would sit on varying positions. Repairing it was nigh impossible. Well elephant it, I'll buy a new one - a very beautiful auto-windong Citizen for 150$. Same problem, but after 1.5 years. OK elephant Citizen, elephant auto-wind, I'll buy a cheap Casio. 9 years and 10$ of batteries later I still had it on my wrist, changed a week ago because the wristband ruined. My dad's reapiring it (he has the spare part) but I bought another Casio - as beautiful as any Citizen I ever had.
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... because we will see the price of Apple Watch raised to $50,000.
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stoneyowl2 wrote: devon-steampunk
Sure that's not a Turing Machine? 
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sometimes it feels like it...
I kinda like it, but it is too outre for me to wear generally - I really need to be in the mood. 
This one http://www.watchismo.com/the-bradley-black-mesh.aspx[^] is my current go to watch. I wear it all the time, just see someone look at my wrist to figure out what time it is...
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stoneyowl2 wrote: the-bradley-black-mesh
I like that. I never wear a watch, but that looks nice and clean. Though I think maybe I'd want the "hands" reversed.
If I recall correctly, my mother had a grandfather who was blind -- he removed the glass from his pocket watch so he could feel the hands. 
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I like watches. There, I said it. So sometimes I'll go check out the manufacturers sites and see what is about. I also quite like Seiko watches - reliable and tough but not too expensive.
Not the sort of watch I like but... Grand Seiko SBGJ007 [^]
Without going to the Seiko site, how much do you think that watch is?
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Without going to the Seiko site, how much do you think that watch is?
$20.00 ?
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I know what you mean: I have a Seiko Titanium 7T32[^] which has got to be 25 years old now. I've replaced the batteries numerous times, the "o" ring once, and the locking catch on the strap once.
It's not had an easy life, but...it works perfectly, and one small scratch on the crystal.
Yes, it cost a "reasonable" amount - a few hundred pounds IIRC - but it'll still be working when the hipster's iWatch has been through FleaBay a couple of times!
And the best bit? It doesn't run out of battery every 23 hours...
The Grand Seiko price? Dunno - but I'm betting it's out of my price range! Is it more or less than a good Rolex?
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OriginalGriff wrote: Is it more or less than a good Rolex?
I didn't know there were any bad Rolexes! 
Mind you, if you want something a touch original... Bamford [^]
I have an old Seiko Kinetic (one of the early models) and it still works if I give it a good shaking.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I didn't know there were any bad Rolexes!
Would you be seen dead wearing this[^]?
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Ok: I get it and NO! That is repugnant! I much prefer understated.
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Amen to that, Brother!
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Meh. I've been wristwatch-free for twenty years or more. As a fan of calculator watches, they kind of marked me as a nerd (which I am), so I used to keep mine in my pocket.
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I would say about $5000...
(I have a friend, who owns a jewelry/watch shop and I visit it sometimes to look for presents to my wife)
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: and I visit it sometimes to look for presents to my wife)
Just looking ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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In my friend shop - just looking...There are other places to buy... 
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Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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