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One of the challenges Microsoft faces is that some people haven't upgraded their Office suite for several years, despite the company's releasing new versions. It's only fair: they keep adding half-a-version's worth of features
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I'd pay full price* if they put the menues back.
* For small values of "full price".
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Ditto.
Office 2003 rocks. 
They will have to pay me to upgrade without beloved menu (and tool bars).
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I never understood what's so great about the menus and so bad about the ribbon. Honestly, I think one major reason why so many people seem to despise the ribbon is that Microsoft fails to communicate how their stuff works when they first introduce it. The Windows 8 UI is another example. They incorporate new UI paradigms into their software without proper explanation, still they wonder why no one else seems to like these changes. I mean, it's really telling when people start complaining that they cannot find the button to shutdown their PC anymore. They become frustrated easily and just don't like to deal with the new stuff any longer. I bet that everyone who seriously spends some time working with the ribbon, figuring out how it works and where to find the things they need, they won't miss the menus at all.
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The issue is that they removed what people were used to, for no reason at all. They could easily have allowed both systems to exist in the software.
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Sure that's another point. Again, Windows 8 is a good example where they removed that Start menu, giving people no choice. The reason might be that it's just easier to remove the old stuff because so they don't have to maintain and support both.
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Menu is a standard access method in any windows software. That is what make windows so successful.
When you encounter a software for first time, the common menu organisation helps you to get started.
With ribbon, you have to learn by heart cryptic icons that you will not encounter is any other software, and in another software, the same function is likely to have another icon.
If ribbon is so genius, why VBA editor (in office) still have menus and tools bars ?
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I didn't say that the ribbon was genius but it indeed has obvious advantages over simple menus if you take a closer look, like they're context-aware, for example. When you select a command on a menu, it's gone. Sure, you can deal with context using toolbars, but at some point the UI gets cluttered unless you're someone who really spends a lot of time arranging and customizing the UI to your likes. And after you managed this, imagine you have to work on the PC of someone else for some hours or a day, with a completely different arrangement... To some extend, the ribbon can be customized too, but generally you'll find the things you're looking for always at the same place, and they're easier to discover than through endless cascades of sub-menus. It's kind of the best of both worlds (menus and toolbars), and it's intelligent enough to hide the stuff that is not important in the current context (for example, table tools are only visible if you're working within a table).
Sure, menu is a standard access method, but at the same time it's kind of dogmatic to insist that every application has to stick with them. That's kind of a road-block for progress, and the ribbon is not only change but progress IMO.
The reason why the VBA editor still has menus and toolbars? I don't know, maybe they choose it's not suitable? Not important enough to upgrade because only a minority of people uses it? I mean, you could also ask why Visual Studio didn't embrace the ribbon as well but I guess one point is that it might turn into a nightmare when extensions start to extend the thing...
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FIorian Schneidereit wrote: they're context-aware
I absolutely positively do not want that. I don't like things moving around.
Even in Office 2003 the default is for the menues to only show the "common" parts and add more as you use them, but I always select Tools|Customize|Option|Always show full menus so they always stay the same.
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Okay, so then the ribbon isn't made for you.  But I've never seen stuff moving around, all the context-sensitive stuff appears (and disapperars) always at the end of the normal tabs (?).
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Related to that is in Visual Studio when editing an SSIS project -- some times the Format menu is there, some times it isn't -- depending on context -- but I'd rather it merely enabled/disabled rather than appearing/disappearing. 
Real-world objects like toasters and microwaves don't do this.
Don't try to save me from myself.
Don't try to show how clever you are.
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ppolymorphe wrote: If ribbon is so genius, why VBA editor (in office) still have menus and tools bars ?
Because they ripped off the VB6 (VB5?) editor 20 years ago, but it was written in VB and is such a cluster elephant that they can't figure out how to change anything and the userbase isn't big enough to justify a rewrite?
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Sounds like he has something to hide.
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The Future of Programmers[^]
I'm not entirely convinced but it makes interesting reading.
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Haha of course
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"We've invented a new method of communication," says Microsoft engineer Vijay Mital, head of the GigJam project. "Hey, girl, I got something I think you ought to know. "
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It is not a new method of communication.
Anything that needs that amount of marketing can be dismissed early. Reading further, that is confirmed. So it is not using the mail protocol, but webservices.
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