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A Rare Boomeranging Telescopic Phrase Maze with No Hint of Welsh Rarebit
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Rare Earth First Aid Kit Carson City, Nevada Falling Waters and Howlin' Wolf Blitzkrieglights camera action Jackson Mississippi River of No Return to Sender's Gamey Tasting and Cooked Rare
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Along the same lines as Windows Admin Rights for Software Engineers....
Our workplace recently decided to push down a policy for Symantec to scan for Reputation risks - any software not defined by Symantec's large community of users is marked as a WS.Reputation.1 risk and will be deleted. Add to that if found multiple times you get automatically disconnected from the workplace network. We write software for our INTERNAL use only, for testing our products. It is not "sold" to the general public. So IT wants to know the EXACT spelling, the EXACT paths, and have the source code to review to make sure we are not writing malware instead of our jobs. A few of us got banned and it took 8 business days to get computer access back to "normal". In the mean time I got to organize my file cabinets ... They put the "delete" and ban on hold for now while they try and figure out how to make it work... For now I rename my executables to OUTLOOK.exe, POWERPNT.exe 
So how does your workplace handle this ?
Toto1107
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Toto1107 wrote: So how does your workplace handle this ?
We hire people we can trust.  
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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we fire people who think of that.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I would fire anyone that installs Symantec Antiproductivity.
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That's a bit harsh. Your typical non-technical PHB doesn't have the background to realize what a disaster it would be; any punishment beyond smirks and poorly suppressed laughter from the CTI/CIO when he suggests it the boardroom is overkill. Now if it's IMPLEMENTED that's a different story; then burn management to the ground.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Toto1107 wrote: and have the source code to review to make sure we are not writing malware
..you found someone who is more paranoid than I am. That is saying a lot 
Simple advice; run and don't look back. A company that is crippling itself will not survive long.
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Forgot to answer what the 'workplace' does. Well, we are local admins, install all kind of crap, and getting a code-review, well, I would be delighted. If I would install Warcraft, then I guess I would be fired, which sounds reasonable to me.
Toto1107 wrote: So IT wants to know the EXACT spelling, the EXACT paths, and have the source
code to review to make sure we are not writing malware
Sorry, everytime I read it start to laugh, it simply feels like a joke. Are you allowed to use the toilet without supervision? Is there someone next to you when you are "reading" in that spot, just to make sure that you are not building malware on your smartphone to take over and destroy the company?
You should tell your boss that, since you work with code, there's a security risk that you steal that code. You should not have access to the code, and write it on paper, based on the specifications that you are not allowed to see. Then someone with the correct access-permission can type it in, build it, and hand you any build-errors back on paper 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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We stopped working with Symantec products for a long time now.
I remember a huge problem with BackupExec, I think it was back in 2010, and it took three weeks to get a support from an engineer who did not even manage to figure out the cause of the issue.
And when a friend or someone of my family buys a new laptop, and I take care of the initial configuration, Symantec is on my blacklist.
while (true) {
continue;
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Handle it by finding a new job. If they can't trust the coders, who can they trust.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Fortunately (for me  ) my last adventure with Symantec was about 10 years ago when it was common for it to lock and scan files frequently... for example during compilation resulting in constant failing builds.
Fortunately we get permission back then to exclude source folders from "protection"
Looking at your story nothing really changed in their "development friendly" practices.
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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Workplace Poopicies 
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Is Beauty in the eye of the beerholder?
(Early today, I have to take Herself to the opticians)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Beauty is staying out of the range of aany of the Beholder's eyes 
Geek code v 3.12 {
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
}
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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A beeholder might have a sting in the eye. I don't think that's gonna be a pretty sight though.
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If the eye is black/blue, then it wasn't.
--edit
Added another color to prevent misinterpretation.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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No. Once in a while I still play this game[^] in DOS Box, but the graphics have long become obsolete.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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cRPGs quite bored me, if they are action RPGs as The Elder Scrolls or the new Fallout franchise then I like them a lot, otherwise I prefer the pen and paper version - there is much more variability and you can do almost anything... pity that my group plays less than 5 times per year 
Geek code v 3.12 {
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
}
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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When the game master smiles it's already too late
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I like how sometimes the party is overconcerned for several minutes and the game doesn't go on because we're too undecided... and the master helps us with the dreaded sentence: roll for initiative. 
Geek code v 3.12 {
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
}
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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I hate GOG. It's after my money!
Geek code v 3.12 {
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
}
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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You must really hate shopping... 
At least GOG gives you value for your money
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If all he's going to do is hold the beer not much will change
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Unless you frame your question differently, you risk making a spectacle of yourself.
I'll check with my contacts.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Clearly we don't see eye to eye.
/ravi
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