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Even northern Europe is nothing compared to the UK. IT there is a big industry, there are companies everywhere.
But its good Croatia is doing well. I haven't seen any contracts over there though. Do you do much windows/linux kernel stuff?
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I'm a microsoft guy, so ... no 
There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high But I have no personal experience.
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Sinisa Hajnal wrote: There is heavy recruiting for Ireland and people are leaving, going after the money. Some return complaining that money looks good on paper, but the cost of living in GB is too high
I'm not surprised they find the cost of living high if they're living in GB and working in Ireland.
They should try living in the same country as they work, or at least on the same island.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Holyhead to Dub? About 40 mins isn't it?
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Aye, not too long, bloody pricey twice a day five days a week though.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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LOL, no they lived in Croatia and now live and work in Ireland. Living in England and working in Ireland seems...well...not cost effective 
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IT is big in Ireland too, but its a bit of a dump with appalling weather.
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I've always quite fancied Germany, but so does everyone else on the planet right now it seems.
Culturally and meteorologically pretty similar to Britain, good beer and its one of those countries that just kinda 'works'. Also because I like the idea of living somewhere where the language isn't my native tongue, to learn a new language. I think that's something us Brits do badly.
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I'm not really considering Europe - it's too bogged down in red tape and has become a "can't do" area (this is especially apparent in the UK). There are some major economic problems right across the Eurozone and I can't see things improving any time soon 
From a development point of view, countries like the US, Canada and Australia seem a lot more dynamic at the moment.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Ummm, California has three societal sections - the illegals, the elite, and the people trying to survive the madness. They did elect moon bat Jerry Brown. Very high taxes (course you're coming from the UK), long commutes, very high housing prices.
I'd move to NZ before California.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Yeah, that's kind of what's come across in the media, but it's difficult to know how true all that is.
A shame if things really have gotten as bad as is portrayed in the news and movies
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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The bottom half of Australia isn't too hot - and if you can put up with a few mid-30's days in summer, the spring and autumn weather is awesome.
We live on the Sunshine Coast, emigrated from Pommieland in '92 - kicked ourselves for not having done so sooner.
The Boy(TM) was born here and I envy him greatly (although the schools here don't seem to have invented the shower - so after playing footie in the summer, they are little stinkers!)
Plenty of IT jobs about see here for Brisbane jobs[^]
We didn't find it hard working in IT here - very similar to the UK in may ways.
Work hours tend to be longer (or longer than they were when I was last working in the UK) i.e. 37.5 hour or even 40 hour weeks.
4 weeks paid holiday and 10 days sick/family leave are about the norm
Salary for a mid-level dev is probably $80k to $100K (but does vary a lot).
Get paid more in Sydney - but property can be expensive depending on the suburb - and the usual big city commute problems arise - but Sydney is fantastic.
Brisbane is more laid back (they used to have a sign between NSW and Qld saying "Welcome to Queensland, please set your clock and calendar back 30 years") but it has grown up even in the time we've been around here.
we lived in Samford (for example) where property tends to be acreage, the lifestyle is great, about 40 mins commute to the city.
Use Domain.com.au to look at properties
We are not on the sunshine coast (Cooroy) 20 minutes from the best beaches in Qld (IMHO) but in the hinterlands - property is cheap but fewer jobs (high unemployment in the Sunshine Coast because lots of people come here for the sun and stay for the dole)
Before we emigrated I was concerned about the hear (not least because I had an allergy which meant I couldn't go out in the sun without blowing up like a red Michelin man)
so we came on a 4 week holiday to suss it out.
We applied for Visas the day we got back home - jetlagged and all.
Suggest you do the same (come on a holiday and suss it out)
Welcome to kip here for a night or two to save some cash!
Cheers
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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That's a lot of excellent information, thanks!
I think we'll have to visit whichever places we narrow it down to (probably two), thanks for the offer to stop over a night or two  , it'd probably be great to meet up and discuss things if we get over there
Whichever places we visit, I'll probably try and line up some meetings/interviews with companies if possible to get a feel for the work too.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Well you know what they say. If you find the perfect place, don't go there. You'll only ruin it!
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The best place to be a programmer is in your heart of hearts.
If you are talking about money, then go where corporate america/britain/russia/japan/etc... is at. Work for the people that can afford to pay you the $$.
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Been to Russia, work in UK at the moment.. just thinking about whether to stay or whether to look elsewhere
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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If you are asking the question, the can I assume your are not happy about some part of your current circumstances? Money?
If it is money, then my only advice is to go where the money is. I love working here in the States, so the thought of working in another country, has never entered my tiny brain. I can't work for a country that is not an ally of my country.
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Well money's important to survive, but it has to be balanced with other things in life
The money's good in the UK, but what with the weather and the downbeat British "can't do" attitude (sorry about the generalisation here), I'm just wondering if it's worth a try elsewhere.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: British "can't do" attitude
Well, it is no better in the States.
Although I love working here, the "Won't do, not my job" attitude is prevalent - I am not sorry for the generalization.
Good luck in your search.
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Really? It always comes across as the opposite 
Slacker007 wrote: "Won't do, not my job" attitude
We have that here too..
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: It always comes across as the opposite
Not to get too political, but it is really bad here now, on many levels.
Looks are deceiving. 
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Hopefully things will turn around again? In some ways there seems to be a lost sense of direction everywhere at the moment.
It's all the internet's fault, I tell ya!
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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We moved from South Africa to the US. We looked at Australia and Canada as well but decided on the US since the country is diverse and chances are high that you'll eventually find somewhere that is a good fit.
We avoided California because it seems that, for the most part, most employers expect you to work long hours. They provide great benefits and the pay is good. They have a high turn-over rate. I was surprised to find out recently that there is no restraint of trade in certain areas and so it is easy to move onto a different job in the same area.
We lived in Florida for a while when I went to University there. The weather is great, there are a lot of outdoor things to do. I found that, in general, the people that you meet on the street not to be super-friendly, but they were friendly enough. As for prospects, 5 years ago I was not able to find any programming work at a place that was prepared to help with a work visa.
We're now in Kansas and the work environment is great - a family-comes-first sort of place that also happens to do some fun things. The weather can get quite cold in the winter and hot in the summer.
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If outdoors is your penchant then forget the tropics, stick to the temperate zones. Coming from a western culture you are going to struggle with anything Asian unless you like that sort of thing. You are also not going to enjoy a 3rd world economy. There, just removed 60% of the planet for you.
You need to assess the employment possibilities REALLY carefully, example my son in law just spent 9 months out of work in Sydney trying to get an IT job in Sydney. MM also struggled to get employed there some time ago. Yet Sydney is often a preferred destination.
Personally I'd like to work in Canada but them I've never been there, grass is greener I guess.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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That's why I was thinking of avoiding Australia, but the other half likes the idea of Australia at the moment
We've started planning a visit to see what it's like. I think Sydney probably is too much of a popular destination, so maybe Melbourne would have more potential?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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