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Neville Franks wrote:
In ED (see sig) I have a unified system for handling commands which doesn't care where the commands originate (menu,toolbar,kbd,macro,mouse click) but has the information on the source, should someone down the track need it.
Thanks for mentioning it. I'll look into it.
Neville Franks wrote:
along with parameters for each command as required
That's where SharpDevelop really doesn't make it. For instance, what if you wanted to have there be a menu item builder that builds a recent list containing a number of menu items for recent files, with the command "App.OpenFile", and the name of the file as a parameter? You can't do this very well in SharpDevelop, but it's very important that you have that capability.
Neville Franks wrote:
As far as messaging I find signals and slots are the way to go
I was talking mainly about messages to the user, and logging/debug messages.
I'll take this opportunity to say something that's on my mind:
I think that a good solid application framework is one of the biggest keys to the success of failure of a piece of software. If you don't bother to make a good framework, then it's as good as if you tried to build a house on top of a landslide-prone hill. You're going to have problems all the way, and sooner or later, it's going to get to where you have to ditch it and start over.
This project could help thousands of people make much better applications. It would reduce the headaches of maintaining ever-larger apps, and we would finally get the full benefits of component-based development.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
"An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
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Chris Austin wrote:
Any chances in moving the AAL from a source forge project to a part or subporject of the new CP project?
Sure! I'd be fine with that.
Chris Austin wrote:
I don't look at application development the same way.
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Marc
Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"
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Too bad my co-workers aren't so happy now that I've become the instrumented framework nazi.
Seriously, I'll be glad to help with your efforts if you can put up with a lot of questions and bit sporatic help at first. I am stil adjusting to my new hours at my new job (7:00 - 4:00 vs "whenever" - "whenever + 9") and I have been very sleepy (not to mention grumpy) lately.
Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that?
- Jack Burton
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Chris Austin wrote:
I'll be glad to help with your efforts
Cool! I'm working on the GUI and database automation stuff at this point. Shall I email you my current source so you can peruse it at your convenience? I could sure use some feedback!
Marc
Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Shall I email you my current source so you can peruse it at your convenience? I could sure use some feedback!
Sure. That works for me.
If it is avalable via CVS I can do that as well. 
I'll send you my private address.
Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that?
- Jack Burton
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Gotta second this one. I like anyone who takes a look at SharpDevelop have been thinking through and working on pieces of my own framework. SD's addin/ codon but it runs into problems when you try to adapt it to the concept of needing to load-unload-load plugins at runtime. Dependency checking becomes a nightmare.
Anyway I'm game for this one! I really like what Marc has done with his articles and have considered scrapping what I've built i experiment and using that as a foundation.
Mark Conger
Sonork:100.28396
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It would certainly be nice to bag lots of the Office style GUI code together like BCGControlBar / Ultimate Toolkit does. After all the interface they make are wonderful - just a shame BCG is no longer free for most of us... Certainly an incentive to build on the idea in a no charge way
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Joel Holdsworth wrote:
It would certainly be nice to bag lots of the Office style GUI code together like BCGControlBar / Ultimate Toolkit does. After all the interface they make are wonderful - just a shame BCG is no longer free for most of us... Certainly an incentive to build on the idea in a no charge way
Precisely. I have a big list of both common and not-so-common controls I'd like to see us do.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." - Jesus
"An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind." - Mahatma Gandhi
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Since someone submitted an idea for a C# book ... 
We have found that there is not much well written on writing WinForm applications in .NET and yet it is very different from the old days in some ways. So I put in a suggestion for a book on writing winform applications.
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Not because of those that do evil,
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My proposal is for an ASP.NET class library that we can use in place of the ASP.NET intrinsic controls. Currently the ASP.NET controls output fairly horrendous and bloated HTML, are not XHTML compliant, and do not support Mozilla et al. A set of controls either replacing these controls, or deriving from them and overriding their HTML rendering functionality would be a Good Thing.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Any chance of making this a part of UGLY?
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Mate, I can make it as ugly as you want. Just ask Paul 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Just ask Paul
I've heard it isn't bad at all... I've been told that "you would never let ugly code leave your machine".. from my secret informer* 
*I won't tell him it was you Paul.. your secret is safe with me.
Regards,
Brian Dela 
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Flattery will not get you out of getting me a Kilkenny cap
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Flattery will not get you out of getting me a Kilkenny cap
Damn Thats not what I was doing Chris.. Honest!!! :-P ... Right.. Kilkenny cap can be sent to you tomorrow.... Kilkenny beer or Kilkenny Stout is a problem. I'll get u one eventually
Regards,
Brian Dela
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Tom Welch wrote:
Any chance of making this a part of UGLY?
Now there is an idea. I am dead set on doing the XHTML ASP.NET control library, that has my top score as the idea.
.NET has the two trees of WebForms and Windows Forms. So our project with the XHTML WebForms could be done in parallel with a Windows Forms version as well.
I like it. And of course calling it UGLY just rocks
using UGLY.WebControls 
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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The one who's project gets elected will be the project leader, right?
It looks like you are in, Chris !
jhaga
CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote:
...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner.
...Good heavens!
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*points to Paul*
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
*points to Paul*
You evil, evil man. You soften me up on IM, then the penny drops on this forum.
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
Chris Losinger wrote:
i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Mwahaha
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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... for the basic architecture/construction of what ever is designed.
When's the closing date for the ideas anyway?
Cheers,
Barry
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Here is my idea, although it may already exist, or to complicated to program. I need a browser/spider that will spider websites on certain topics.
Imagine for a moment this example, It would be ideal for me to set the search (I would imagine it must be a specific search) "+neuroscience +unified +theory -book"(etc)
maybe an option for only .edu domains etc.
After setting the search options, leave the computer overnite and my results are downloaded(one page deep/html only, for example) or urls saved with title infomation.
Why not just use google? well not everything is listed on google and their might be important information/ideas out there.
Another example would be for a subject you're interested in, lets say American Politics. I spoke with Marc Clifton about this particular idea.
First you would tell the program your concept of American Politics are, like dislikes, experiences( i have made an example text page of this concept tagging idea but I can not find it right now, will post later?).
After the concept is built the program will return results that you might find of interest based on your concept, with an option to modify, of course So that's my crazy idea, didn't someone post a Microsoft news article that they are working something similair to this, I would like to see who could do better CPians or MS;P
I would have suggested human ai but I don't think this is an effiecent way to do it.
I would join in the project but I have so many thing going on right now I know it wouldn't be a good decision. I can be a consultant however
Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
-Albert Einstein (INTP)
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Using P2P it would make it easier collect information than if you were to use Google, because many people would be apart of this. The AI part of this would be determining the subjects of the content. I have thought of something like this but the main concerns are: performance, and people with dialup (who could that be i wonder  )
-Steven "the yellow dart" Hicks
CPACodeProjectAddict
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(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote:
and people with dialup (who could that be i wonder )
(Steven Hicks)n+1 wrote:
Using P2P it would make it easier collect information than if you were to use Google
that's true, for kicks and giggles I'll search kazaa for some research doc's, on second thought, that could be macro virus gallore(.doc etc), hhmmmm.:scratching head:
Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
-Albert Einstein (INTP)
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An improved code project article search engine.
Jason Henderson My articles
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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