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W∴ Balboos wrote: Have you considered going in for something with a more promising future? Blacksmith? Wheelwright? Politician?
Saboteur? 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Member 11375116 wrote: And artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers
There will be no "Googling Stack Overflow" then 
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Same said about tractors in fact it created more jobs & more food. Eventually pretty much all would be automated and we all have to work less
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Yeah, yeah ... they've been saying that for years. The machines (compiler technology) writes more and more of the low-level code but you're never getting rid of programmers. The demand is higher than ever. Relax.
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Being replaced by a machine? Unlikely.
Being replaced by a third grader? That's a worry!
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Fear not. We don't get paid to write code.
We get paid to write the "RIGHT" code.
In between want and need, there are questions to ask.
Everyone wants software. But the software must do what you need it to do.
That analysis, it turns out, is VERY HARD.
So, right now, 50% of all software projects fail. When humans are doing it,
and we have "intelligence" and we can adapt and interpret what "users" really want.
When computers start doing this, what do you think their success rate will be?
Companies will hire smart people to help guide the computers. To ensure success.
Programming may change, but I don't think it will ever go away.
BTW, 33 years ago, when I was a teen, getting into software, my girlfriends father
told me to find a new major. He worked for K-mart as a software developer, and he
said back then that then CASE tools coming out were going to do away with developers.
I believe adopting these technologies, instead of smart developers is what hurt K-Mart.
Walmart... They spent a lot of money with some smart people, and designed the system
to do what they needed.
When it does happen it will be like this:
"This amazing software writes ANY PROGRAM for you.
It only requires 10 years of computer programming experience to use its interface!"
Don't worry that your job wont be there. Be the best you can do, and work for the companies
that cannot afford that software! (You don't think it's going to be cheap, do you?)
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It's probably less that AI will take over development in the near-ish future, but more that it could iterate much more quickly and for longer periods where the advantage for machines lies.
They'll make a lot of the same sort of stupid blunders we all make, but will be able to try a different approach much more quickly than we can type, and won't have to take time away for that pesky eating and sleeping.
Is Skynet online yet?
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We can always learn how to write requirements.
The machines need some kind of input. Even in the Matrix, it was "yes, we accept this reality." And when they decide to go off and explore the universe, they'll have no reason to concern themselves with this little ball of mud any longer - particularly as it's coated with light silicates. They might leave the depleted carcass to us.
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AI is a pipe-dream - nothing more. A computer is a mechanism, and so is a computer program: it's a software mechanism. So is an internal combustion engine.
Functional, strong AI in a computer system is as likely as your car's internal combustion engine, together (presumably) with its engine management system, evolving into Optimus Prime. Isn't going to happen.
I think what does happen all the time is that people have no idea how a computer works, and so they choose to believe that it's somehow an intelligent, thinking system -- which is the same as believing that your car knows where to go when you start it up.
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I'll start worrying about that around the time natural language recognition is a fully solved problem. Should be any day now, given that we've been "5 years away" since like 1960.
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I would certainly dismiss you immediately for poor grammar and poor thinking.
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why? You always you can to continue programming.For example IA programming  or for the improvement and maintenance of IA. But if you're a bad programmer will always could get other jobs to do, to be able to survive. That term "the machines remove our work" is only for failed people that the best thing to do is receive orders, they have no initiative and motivation for start up thing, want everything done.
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Member 11375116 wrote: think computers can write programs in the future.
Nope.
Member 11375116 wrote: artificial intelligence will be better than a lot of programmers
Nope.
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Internet Explorer has been terminated with extreme prejudice on my work machine. I am now basking in the fluorescent transcendence that is Chrome.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Is that the Gary Wheeler of 2010?
I'm actually back to firefox. Too often Chrome failed to show a page correctly for me.
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FF is still a greedy pig - it does like to hog it's memory rather too much for me. I'm back to Chrome again.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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? I found Chrome way more greedy than FF, plus the mangled layouts of many pages.
Geek code v 3.12 {
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
}
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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I don't get that problem - it's probably a reflection of the different way we use our browsers.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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yeah - porn is so much easier to render ...
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Main problem I experience is still being single-process, one plugin can bring down the entire session.
Memory wise, my perception is that chrome got worse and ff got better, to the point where I don't care about the difference.
Plus, I moved from google to duckduckgo as main search engine and I thought that would be a little pointless if I continued to use chrome.
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Nope. I've used Firefox here at work and at home on occasion, and just prefer Chrome.
Our corporate IT Gestapo insists that the corporate intranet sites only work properly with IE. I did a quick test, and the intranet sites I use (bug tracking and HR) all work just fine with Chrome. The thing that finally triggered IE's demise was the most recent group policy push, which triggers security message boxes from IE for almost every navigation. In some cases I was getting message boxes for just scrolling the damned page.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Did they investigate to see if the security alerts are actually an issue?
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Professional rough loses point, bronze component close by a positive hydrogen nucleus leads to deferral. (15)
Sorry for being so late with this. Suddenly, and when I least expected it, work started interfering with my usual CP activities. I hope this will stay an exception to the rule.
Cheers and have fun!
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
modified 22-Jul-15 7:32am.
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Something says that I will have to answer this later.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Something says that I will have to answer this later.
I first thought of replying later, but then again I've already had enough of this for today.
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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