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Zafar Sultan wrote: What about selling burgers? The right job for your PM.
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Good one.
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In the Summary they add up their input and write it to a database. Expect that after the buttons comes some selection.
I would make a "fat estimation" and discuss.
Selling burgers isnt an alternative. What about buying a farm "somewhere in the nowhere"
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Yeah. "Fat Estimation" can be an option for what we see. What about estimating something that we have not even seen?
BTW, do you know any place at "nowhere"?
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Zafar Sultan wrote: BTW, do you know any place at "nowhere"?
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With a river named "Clyde" nearby, you can't go wrong!
Sincerely,
-Mark
mamiller@rhsnet.org
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Its simple to figure out the estimate for this project, its the duration of the video recording!
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Okay. Let's start working on it
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Zafar Sultan wrote: What about selling burgers?
Is that the function for the other buttons?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I hope not
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Zafar Sultan wrote: What about selling burgers?
Can I have two please, one with cheese and bacon, and would there be any chance of dropping an egg on top?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Sure sir. Let me estimate the time to prepare that one for you.
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Reject it until you get a proper specification sheet
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Me: I can't do that until I get a proper specification sheet.
Mr. PM: Then prepare a proper specification sheet first!
(That's my prediction. And it's quite accurate based on the past events )
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You need to try to make him understand that this is not possible. Any estimation of design and development will be dependent on requirements.
Another approach could be 2 days per control on screen (including labels and anything you see).
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I would like to go with the second approach. Two days for each label(different numbers for other controls)
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ask your client to provide the source code of windows application and you can check yourself what those button do when clicked.
Ravi Khoda
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Yes Ravi. You are spot on. If I were him, I would have asked the client straight away for the source code. At least it could have been of so much help to come up with idea how complex the application is. But, there is always a but...
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Even your PM can do that.. this is the whole idea of re-useability, You are just converting the UI of the application by making a web application so , business logic would be same for both so there is no meaning to build every thing from start. Use existing stored procedures , some class may also be reusable from the window application if the code was done properly.
and if your PM can not understand this common thing...All the best for the project.
Ravi Khoda
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Zafar Sultan wrote: If I were him
Why are you waiting for him to get this idea? As a developer/designer/technical guy, isn't it your responsibility to suggest this?
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What do you think a sane developer/designer/technical guy would do? I have already asked him to get the source code to look at.
The Reply: We won't get the source code. It is their sole property. They can't share it.
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if possible at least ask for the exe file with test database. i think client won't have a problem in doing that.
best idea is don't give any estimate, prepare a query document first. ask them about whatever you don't understand during the video session.
Try to get the maximum information from client and after that you might be able to give some rough estimate of the project.
Ravi Khoda
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Thanks for your valuable suggestion Ravi.
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