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But everyone is against computer driven cars, so this is what we have to learn to live with instead.. it's a simple choice.
It's easy to laugh at clips like these and say "what a stupid person, I'd never do anything like that" but we're all human, we all make mistakes, some with more serious consequences than others. Have I made mistakes driving? Of course - many, the same as every other driver - and every time I drive. Most people just don't realise they're making mistakes - that's the dangerous part.
With humans at the wheel, it's not "if" we're going to have an accident, it's "when and how bad". Computer driven vehicles won't stop accidents, but they'd certainly be a lot less often.
But hey, what about our freedom, eh? 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: But hey, what about our freedom, eh?
What about the freedom of the pedestrians you mow down because you are texting while you drive? The couple into whose front room you drove because you had too many beers?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's exactly my point
There was an article in the news last week about the Google self-driven car having "another" accident (making it sound like it was the self-driven car that had caused the accidents).
When you actually read the article, it'd been rear-ended by a human driver... again!
I enjoy driving when I'm back in Wales, but it's a real hassle when closer to London. All in all, I'd rather have a computer driving me around when commuting, then have some fun driving at a local track or when the roads aren't congested.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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I ran my car in to a ditch recently...
Stupid mistake because I was le tired. I'd love me a computer driven car. I'd be able to get 45 extra minutes of rest each way to and from work each day, 1 hour during the winters.
But atm I'm just looking forward to when cars gets sensors to help prevent wildlife accidents. Stastistics from 2009 said we had a total of 45000 wildlife collisions. And almost 6000 was with moose.
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It's interesting how much safer flying became with the widespread use of autopilots
Luckily we don't have moose's here - on most roads the biggest thing you'd hit would be a sheep, badger, fox or small deer. There are some areas where there are bigger creatures roaming about, but not many.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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I think it was on future predictions there is a prediction that quite soon we will see no more airplane accidents on larger aircrafts caused by piloting because ever since autopilot and more technology has been loaded on passenger aircrafts the accident frequency has constantly been reduced.
Sadly even when computers start to drive it will probably take quite some time to switch out the car fleet.ö
If you know the British comedy series Red Dwarf in there is a funny reference to moose related accidents in Sweden there where when the characters are asked what the most common cause of traffic accidents in Sweden is they all answer moose except one character which is driven insane on how those morons can get it right but not him.
But what has been most insane for me this spring was when I came back from being home with my kid and spring had broken out and the woods was filled with suicide birds. Not a day for a whole month where I didn't almost run in to cranes, wood geese regular geese and pheasants.
During the winter all I saw was deer and hares, is away for a month and it's almost like a Hitchcock movie.
Nothing like a large bird on the road that tries to take to flight "quickly". Luckily my windscreen is still whole.
Maybe I can get a computer driven car with an airsoft mounted to help motivate animals to stay away. Could work for pedestrians too.
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Member 11683251 wrote: I think it was on future predictions there is a prediction that quite soon we will see no more airplane accidents on larger aircrafts caused by piloting because ever since autopilot and more technology has been loaded on passenger aircrafts the accident frequency has constantly been reduced.
Practically every fatal air incident these days is either caused by human error or deliberate action.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: I enjoy driving when I'm back in Wales, but it's a real hassle when closer to London. All in all, I'd rather have a computer driving me around when commuting, then have some fun driving at a local track or when the roads aren't congested.
Same here. I can drive in heavy traffic if I have to; but live in a small town where closing two lanes on the 4 lane highway barely has any impact on travel time, bad traffic on my commute consists of two decrepit coal trucks side by side trying to pass each other going up a mountain instead of following each other in the slow lane.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: two decrepit coal trucks side by side trying to pass each other going up a mountain instead of following each other in the slow lane
I think that's part of the requirements for getting a goods vehicle license
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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OriginalGriff wrote: The couple into whose front room you drove because you had too many beers
Hard to explain after you crashed through their bay windows and knocked over the TV. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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My daughter gets her license tomorrow. Wow.
I remind her, not to make her afraid, but just because it is the truth.
Driving is the most dangerous thing the average person does on a regular basis.
A vehicle has the capacity to wreak immense havoc on peoples lives and property.
Avoid distractions, don't be in a hurry, leave extra room.
I think the self driving cars will be great. I was given an Acura TLX loaner with
the "warning" system in place. Way cool. Putting the turn signal on, it detects objects
in the way, blinks the light on the side view mirror, and buzzes the seat.
Now I am afraid people will get used to it (like airbags) and drive less safely. That device
will fail, and they will side swipe someone. Or they borrow someone elses car and try to rely
on a feature that isn't there.
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This was in the news two days ago: http://jaxenter.com/the-dangers-of-spaghetti-code-117807.html[^]
I don't intend to die just because some company has as much expertise about software development as I have in laying eggs.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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And would you get on any airliner knowing that the pilot had to fly the plane manually the whole way, or would you prefer they use the autopilot?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Let's just say that looking at what I'm working on right now, I doubt that car manufacturers have the same quality standards as any aerospace companies.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Hmm.. you'd be surprised. Aircraft aren't made from high quality parts, they're made from parts that are at a low enough quality that they can be made consistently and cheaply. The price comes from the chain of paperwork that comes with each part.
In the last aerospace company I worked for (American, BTW), I had colleagues who had all manner of problems from personal hygiene through to schizophrenia (the police came looking for that guy after he'd stopped taking his medications for about three weeks and started jabbering on about God to a mate of mine who worked in his department). One guy earned the name "The Terminator" for his handywork and was promptly promoted to a manager position
Another guy started bringing in the remains of what his cat had caught, making hand-crafted trophies from them (I'm talking about half a mouse), then hanging them up on the wall. The smell became a problem and he was "asked" to take them down.
Like I said, in the aerospace industry the standards are low but consistent
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Brent Jenkins wrote: would you prefer they use the autopilot?
Can this autopilot land the plane in the Hudson River after a flock of birds caused all the engines to fail?
There are strangers on the Plain, Croaker
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For every one lucky positive, there are hundreds of incidents caused by human error..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Überlingen_mid-air_collision[^]
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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The horrible part is that these people did not have to die.
The 911 operator failed to tell them to put the car in neutral, and they failed to know themselves.
Yes, the software caused a failure, but I remember being quite upset watching this on the News because you should know how to handle a stuck accelerator, and failing breaks. A momentary panic is understandable, but the one incident on the news, these people had worn out their brakes trying to stop/slow down the vehicle.
Had they put the car in neutral, the brakes would have worked fine.
The engine might have revved, but who cares.
This is not excuse for horrible code. But horrible code + lack of skills = disaster!
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I learned driving with manual transmission and still prefer it today. If the clutch would fail, I still could force it into neutral, probably damaging the transmission.
Anyway, even if this does not happen every day, I would probably be smart enough to put an automatic transmission into neutral, simply because I still know how the transmission works. Relying on any automation and ignorance of the underlying principles can prove to be deadly when things go wrong.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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I very, very, very nearly ran into an old fella on a mobility scooter when he drove straight out in front of me on my way to work this morning. Good job (for him) I was in the car with brakes that work.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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The image appears to be gone, however anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book (and should receive a metal of honor and lower insurance premiums for ridding us of a damn nuisance).
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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jeron1 wrote: anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book
IMAO, given the way some (most?) motorcyclists ride, the law should mandate the crushing of motorcycles. 
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Finally, a law I could vote for! 
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I've been using Chrome for years, and really like it. But since last week or so, it refuses to print anything from a map service, including Google Maps and Mapquest. On a whim, I also tried it on this page (Ctrl-P) and it failed to print. It allows me to select a printer, displays the preview perfectly, then merrily prints blank pages. I've checked for fixes and found nothing, so I'm ready to abandon it for something - not IE - that works.
What do you suggest?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: What do you suggest?
Stop printing ? 
I'd rather be phishing!
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