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Mycroft Holmes wrote: 18 months and I'm out of here!
I'm not sure I could hack 18 months. I bailed on Citi after 5 months of hell, and those were much better work conditions (except the commute was a 3 hour a day torture-fest).
Marc
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Well they do pay me a shitpot of money and I have always been a tart. Lifestyle in SG in one of the best anywhere I know of, so there are some perks!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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jkirkerx wrote: And there's nobody left in India worth their weight.
Am still in India; weighing around 72 kg. Is that weighty enough?
More seriously, there're a lot of programmers here, more than two thousand of them in my building. And, this is one of several buildings across various 'tech-parks' around here.
Coming to the 'factory programmers' thing, that's so in some service companies here. In 'product-based', aka, foreign companies which have directly set up shop here, its much better*.
* Nowadays, there's shift to an 'open office' concept; not sure how productive it will be for programming jobs.
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Avijnata wrote: 'open office' concept; not sure how productive it will be for programming jobs.
In my opinion, open offices are a great solution - As long as they don't get too noisy*.
Programming is a Team thing (usually). Teams work best when the communication works well, and open offices seem to enforce this.
* Even in that case, there's still this[^] for me
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Regarding the headset*, not sure whether its long-term use will gradually make one hard of hearing?
* irrespective of whether it is noise-cancelling or not.
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Avijnata wrote: not sure whether its long-term use will gradually make one hard of hearing?
Naah, didn't hear about anyone having this problem 
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It's a worldwide thing. I dare to say that out-sourcing is not only a big topic in our industry, but many others. Ford used to produce the Model T in the US, nowadays most cars are produced anywhere in the world (usually places where labor is cheap).
With the rise of China (and other emerging countries) we will face more and more competitors even on highly specialized jobs. But: Even chinese (as an example) workers pay will eventually rise (an effect of capitalism, though it may not be fully applicable on a semi-communist country) and make outsourcing to these countries more and more less worth the effort.
To me, language seems to be the top deal breaker: The company I'm currently with is specialized on Scanning solutions & Scan data analysis (Questionnaires, Election Forms and so on). Many of our customers are not international, plus the forms we are scanning and analyzing are not written in english. Our solutions often need a lot of customization on the customer site, since some of the systems are not connected to the internet due to security standards. The customers are often small to middle sized, sometimes international companies and government organsations. While the international companies *could* afford to outsource our work to foreign countries, the others can't do this, since the overhead would cost them more than they can possible afford.
See where I'm going? While big projects seem to be prone to be outsourced, development of small, specialized solutions seems to be safe on the middle-term run (Ignoring the threat of being replaced as developer by a computer program).
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A lot depends on what a company is hiring a person to do.
If it is purely to kick out code based on a specification written by someone else, then there's no particular reason to not hire a cheaper person.
However if you want a 'developer' who is involved in the whole project lifecycle then this is not a good idea.
It's not a good idea because culture and language are extremely important when communicating and developers need to be able to communicate in a manner that is culturally relevant to their environment.
There are certain cultures where the concept of "No" and "I don't know" do not exist and this can cause big problems on projects.
Personally I don't want to work on a project with someone who is unable to say "No" or "I don't know".
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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jkirkerx wrote: And what the programming scene is like now in India.
Probably a bit like this.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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I usually sleep the desktop computer instead of shutting it down. I sleep it and restart it perhaps 3 times per day.
I've noticed that the more days I go without rebooting it, the more page file chugging is required to switch between applications. And if there is an application that hasn't been in the foreground for more than 24 hours, the system virtually comes to a stop until it pages in all the memory associated with it when I finally bring it forward.
Anyway, if the machine has gone several days without rebooting, then it's painful to switch applications because of all the hard drive access.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Was there any Windows version that handled this better? Not as far as I can remember - unless it's Windows 7, I always shut it down completely because of its quick boot up on a SSD.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Yeah, I never noticed it on 7.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I run my various Windows 7 machines (a few at home and a couple more at work) for days and weeks on end without ever shutting them down. They go to sleep, not hibernate, come back up fast and never seem to show the slowdown of which you write.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I notice it regularly. I do not put it to sleep, but hibernate. So each time I close the lid, it goes to hibernation mode. Yes, same thing happens. Each time it takes more than 3-5 days, applications run a lot slower til it comes to a stage where I have to restart the laptop.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Glad to know I'm not imagining it! 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I run 8.1, shutdown the computer down a couple of times, came back the next morning and it was asleep instead.
Had to reboot by 12 noon both times, because strange things were happening.
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Thank goodness I'm still using Windows 7. I've never noticed that problem with W7, and I often don't reboot my laptop for weeks.
Marc
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 Windows 7, 32 bit os, 5400 disk, flaky VS 2013 debugger and enough corporate crap wear to drown a dog and I need to reboot twice a DAY. Stop your bitching!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I've never noticed that on my desktop/laptop running 8.1, but I can tell you that my wife's PC (running Windows 7) did stuff like that for a few weeks back in February and she thought it was just IE acting badly (which of course, is completely believable). Then one day she couldn't open any of her files, because some CryptoLocker malware had been encrypting all of the files on her hard-drive and was now blackmailing her to pay them $750 in bitcoin via a secure site using the Tor browser. So... I'd suggest running MalwareBytes or something similar, just in case.
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Yes, it usually happen to me. Sometimes even more strange thing happen, "Hibernate" option from the Shutdown menu completely remove. So instead of putting the computer to Hibernate, i have to shutdown.
And yes, after 3-4 days of sleep/hibernate cycles, systems comes to its knees, and again i have no choice but to shutdown.
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Not at all - and I default to sleep at least daily.
Only problem I have that sometimes network card doesn't want to wake up.
Could be a crappy (or crapping-out) disk.
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Hi guys,
I have been working for the last two years in a mid firm.Now,I got an another opportunity in a mid -firm with double of my current salary package. but the problem is the new company is just started Dot net technology development a month ago , there is only 2-3 employees in dot net development So will i get any career growth in that company.I really got confused a lot and i need some suggestion from guys.
Note :The new Company lured by the salary package.
நெஞ்சு பொறுக்கு திலையே-இந்த
நிலைகெட்ட மனிதரை நினைந்துவிட்டால்
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Only you can weigh the pros and cons of this company to decide what is the right decision. If all you care about is money then go for it. But make sure it will provide secure employment and opportunities for the future.
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I'm single, so I don't think job security is not more important than salary .Anyway I got bit confused and i planned to work for 6 months in that company , then approach to any MNC with that pay slip, Is that good decision?
நெஞ்சு பொறுக்கு திலையே-இந்த
நிலைகெட்ட மனிதரை நினைந்துவிட்டால்
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