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chriselst wrote: I had a bet on the kippers getting no more than one seat.
Not really a reflection on their actual support. They actually got roughly the same number of votes as the SNP.
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Oh.
I'd better turn down the money then.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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They actually got over twice the votes of SNP and nearly as many votes as the whole of Scotland
UKIP = 1 MP, SNP = 56 MPs
you may start to think that the system has a flaw
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: you may start to think that the system has a flaw
We know that: it elects MPs... 
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hey you get the Donkey MP you vote for
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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It's not the system that has a flaw ....
Direct comparison of the total votes cast is ridiculous. Only if in every constituency in which a UKIP candidate stood there was also an SNP candidate (or the ballot paper allowed someone to indicate that they would have voted SNP if there'd been an opportunity) would it even begin to make sense. It is the votes per candidate that count. In the seats that SNP won the majority were achieved with outright victories of 50%+ of the vote (even under PR, in other words, these would have been SNP wins). Even UKIPs best results came nowhere near that figure.
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Not really, the flaw is that so few votes/MP in Scotland, no ware else in the Country are the constituencies so small, that they voted for the SNP (and Labour before them) is their right but why should that give them a disproportional amount of say in a UK Government?
Why is my vote worth less than that of a Scot?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: Why is my vote worth less than that of a Scot?
The constituency size is somewhat over played here. The majority of the smallest constituencies are actually in Wales and there only 8 in the whole country with populations of less than 50000. And of course, the smallest constituency of all actually bucked the trend in Scotland and returned a LibDem!
The question is also somewhat disingenuous. Voters in the largest constituency of all, the Isle Of Wight with 110000 might just as easily ask the same question of those in Wolverhampton South at just 63000.
It's interesting to note that nobody seemed terribly concerned about disproportionate representation when Conservatives commanded over 50% of the vote in Scotland (yes, it happened!) nor Labour in its turn, nor indeed when LibDems were dominant in the Highlands and Islands. Electoral Reform is only ever popular with those parties who are worst placed to bring it about. Funny that!
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Whilst electoral reform is unlikely I do foresee boundary changes occurring, as a reduction in the number of MPs in Scotland by even significant number would at worst cause the conservatives to lose 1 seat yet can have a big effect on the anti tory parties
the problem with proportional representation is that to form a government a party has to compromise and that imparts a disproportional amount of power to the minority parties
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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It's actually a shame really. At least he made politics interesting.
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Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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But was he beaten by the Guv! (Al Murray)
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Having had major outages all yesterday caused by a power cut frying important bits of equipment and today being a nightmare trying to catch up with various things as well as fitting in everything scheduled for today which start with a meeting at 10, have this piece of crap cos it's the best I'm going to do today;
An example of chaps in glasses? (8)
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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"Specimen"?
I ain't got no signature.
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Quite right.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Oh dear, oh dear... 
You did have a busy day - you normally make them a lot harder!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Finished mopping up issues in the live environments when I got in this morning.
Just got off the phone after an hour and a half talking splunk.
Now got to finish off the release that should have been done yesterday before we found ourselves with no computers.
Also haven't yet managed to get the test systems talking to each other properly. Need to find a window of opportunity for that.
Should leave the afternoon free for pointing out stupid decisions to project managers. I need much more than an afternoon, but there is no end to stupid.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: no end to stupid
Ain't that the truth!
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Under which stone have you been hiding the recent years?  (Leslie alert!)
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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I guess you did not get it. Say 7 8 9 out aloud.
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You're not getting it. That joke is old, I mean very old.  
You didn't even get the Leslie reference! 
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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Manfred R. Bihy wrote: You're not getting it. That joke is old, I mean very old.
I know the joke is old. I did not know that MS used it for their version of Windows.
If you knew about that, then good for you!
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But their wasn't a Windows 9, a 95 and a 98 but no 9
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: but no 9
That is the point. Say 7 8 9 out aloud.
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