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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Stop surfing porn at work.
He's actually looking for a workable solutions. Not fairy tales like this.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Michael Varey wrote: What are your choices for a better solution?
- Microsoft Security Essentials.
- A custom hosts file.
/ravi
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I've been using Bitdefender free[^] and:
- Is extremely lightweight.
- Doesn't need even to look at it and it is not showing adverts, hints... It's like it is not there.
- It works well. I've installed it in some family computers that had MSE installed and it has found all kind of things running there...
- It doesn't allow to configure anything. If you need to avoid scanning a specific location or set exceptions it is not your choice. In order to do that you should go for the payment version.
I've used AVAST and even it looked good it took a lot of resources.
I've been tempted to use AVG in computers with MSE and that need to apply some exceptions, never done that though.
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Michael Varey wrote: What are your choices for a better solution?
- Microsoft Security Essentials
- custom HOSTS file
- Kaspersky free edition when it's too late, uninstall after use
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Your third point quite clearly implies that the first two aren't any good.
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Hehe, I agree, you could interprete it like that. But actually I never had to resort to the third point on my own PC, only when being called to clean some friends PC.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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On my non-work computer I use MSE and malwarebytes(the free version) and these work great.
At work we use Sophos and likewise it works a treat.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: MSE and malwarebytes
Seconded, never had an issue with this setup.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Michael Varey wrote: What are your choices for a better solution?
We use Trend Micro OfficeScan. Don't know if it's "better" or not, but I have yet to have any issues with it.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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The same happened with Norton Antivirus.
These w@nkers have a tendency to think that what they're doing on your computer is more important that what you do with your computer, and therefore deserves more of your computer's attention -- and God forbid that you should do anything that might take up resources that they want to own!
It's 90% BS, anyway. "Black hats" don't make money from hacking computers with viruses, because it's much too much work. If you don't want your bank account emptied, just don't open unwanted e-mails, and don't type any personal information into web-sites unless you are absolutely certain it's safe to do so (i.e. pretty much never).
I haven't even given any real personal information to CP. Paranoia? Nah. Just basic common sense for Internet usage. There are millions upon millions of @rseholes strangers on the Interwebs; what they don't know can't hurt you.
That just leaves the black hats who get kicks out of screwing with other people's stuff. **** 'em, say I. They can't break anything that I can't fix -- and fixing it would even be more fun than my usual routine, so they'd be doing me a favour.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Just bought an acer Laptop with McAfee - Had to remove this crap, was unable to use the machine because 90-100% capacity usage of McAfee!
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Yes, I've had numerous idiotic faults due to McAfee. To the point where I exterminate any mention of it anywhere on any of my devices. This popped up due to my personal "spam, virus, spoof, etc." filters - warning me there's some possible attack attempt. 
Unfortunately though, McAfee isn't the only one of these things. I've had similar experiences with AVG, Avast, Komodo, etc. and worst was (and still is) Symantic's AVs (even since the old Norton).
I've come to the opinion that ALL AVs are in fact VIRUSES themselves. My advice is to try your damnedest to avoid the need to have them. Whatever it takes, e.g. using a Linux machine as your internet connection PC and only a Windows VM for testing purposes is orders of magnitude more secure than trying any AV into a "work" environment.
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I use BitDefender and it works well,
I used to use McAfee but it was no good, and as someone else said Nortons best feature was it's uninstall program.
BD works and the wife likes it, it's unobtrusive.
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This reminds me of the Windows 95 days, must have been 1996 or 97 or so.
Win95 was so unstable that I had to reinstall practically every week.
It grew to be a routine: Windows (including Format C: ), MacAfee, Word, Visual Basic (5 or 6, don't remember).
Symptoms were always the same: visit a web site, close Internet Explorer, and about 5 seconds after it closed you could get an access violation caused by (as the message said) Internet Explorer. That wasn't running anymore.
If I didn't *immediately* shut down Windows at that point, the next thing that happened would be a blue screen about 30 seconds later, more often than not accompanied by a corrupt directory structure on C: and the umpteenth reinstall.
One day, it happened again and I had NO time to spare, so I skipped MacAfee in the reinstall routine.
Three months later, I still hadn't seen any of the above symptoms anymore. The system was as stable as a rock, and even today, MacAfee still has never had another chance to crawl onto one of my disks.
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A couple of years ago when John McAfee was hiding from the law McAfee corporation, which he founded but is no longer part of, stated they were thinking about changing their name and the product's name because they didn't want to be associated with a "felon". His response - please change it because I don't want my name associated with the crap you're selling now.
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I switched to ESET many years ago. Most of my clients are now using that.
I barely notice it is there.
I have ONE complaint (after MANY years). The configuration for scanning local computer,
and network computers CANNOT be DIFFERENT. If you exclude a network folder that is not there,
it slows the system down. Over the network, over a VPN, it slows things down. (Notice this is
very specific).
Other than that, I am more than happy with the security and speed, and ability to flag downloads, etc.
Kirk Out!
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I gave up with McAfee years ago and for the same reasons. I have now been using Sophos for a few years and on the whole it's not been too bad.
It found a few things on my old laptop that McAfee had missed.
I have now installed it in a number off company's that I do support for and all seem happy.
The only thing is that there is a minimum number of licences that you have to get of around 3 or 5 as they only like to sell to corporates and you have to purchase through a partner.
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I was right. I just got out of a meeting this morning, they want me to get "some time to myself between jobs", so I'm cut after I finish this project. I'm probably going to have to scoot my start date up at the other place now so I don't have a big gap in the paycheck.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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You gave them three weeks notice, I thought.
If they want you off the premises (and it isn't in your CoE that termination happens automatically) they should be paying you for that time.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Just regular illinois work agreement, no contract. So they can fire at will, and I can leave without notice. I put in my notice, I think they are using their "at will" ability. I dunno, I'm supposed to spec out this project to see how long it will take me and then have another meeting with them.
I'm pretty sure it's goina just be the axe.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Depends how long it takes to estimate the project.
It can take weeks sometimes! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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So I had the other meeting and was very clear with wording, and they did say they wanted me to finish the 2 week notice offsite, and not that they were wanting to stop my employment early.
Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine
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Perfect! You get paid to not commute! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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