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This is a STBP1600200[^] and most of the negative comments I've seen have been about the backup software. I have my own, so I'm not too worried about that. The drives are Barracuda, which I've had good success with before in the 1TB versions.
And I've had 2TB and 4TB Seagate USB drives for a couple of years with no problems whatsoever.
At that price it's cheaper than buying the drives alone! 
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Looks like a nice unit, but only 4 bays and already filled so not expandable. 16TB should last you a while though unless you have a lot of videos, photos, music, etc..
Seagate makes a good product and the backup software they use is memeo and the lite version or whatever they call it is really lame, haven't tried the premium version but if it's anything like the lite it would suck also.
I thought the same thing with my 2TB GoFlex unit but Acronis True Image 2015 not only wouldn't it back up to the device, even though it supposedly supported the device it had trouble backing up to any device. Long story, another post a couple of weeks ago where I whined about it sucking so bad.
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That's fine - my existing NAS is only four bays and it's full as well.
By the time I run out of space in the new one, it's going to be cheaper to replace it than buy more disks anyway - especially as the disks I could buy then will probably be about the same age as the ones in the new one now!
Yeah, finding good backup software is a PITA! I use NTI software which is pretty bad, but I've got used to it and work round it's little failings...hopefully I won't have to change my backup scheme with the new box, since it just uses the NAS as a set of Windows virtual disks via the LAN.
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I agree 16TB should last a while.
And I also agree about the backup software, they all promise the moon and you end up with Limburger. While doing my research for an Acronis replacement was Shadow Protect[^], it is touted as "the" backup utility to own. I have it on a Windows 10 VM and have done some backups with it but no restore and I can say I like it a lot but at present can't justify the $100 so for the time being am using True Image 2013 which was the last usable/reliable version they produced.
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It's the same when you're stupid.
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Mike Hankey wrote: and have done some backups with it but no restore
:brrrrrr: that's a phrase which runs a shudder up my back!
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Yeah I know that's why I went to an older version of Acronis, I've done partial and complete backups with it and it works. (At least up to TI 2013)
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I've seen a lot of hate about the newest version of ATI recently; but it worked reasonably well for migrating the Windows install from my old box to my new one (going from BIOS to UEFI firmware made this a cluster elephant that totally defeated several other tools I tried). The new UI's very metroish which I don't give an elephant about. Burying the setting to stop it complaining that it couldn't find several old disks I popped into a USB adapter just long enough to image prior to destruction multiple button clicks deep in the UI was annoying; but was a one off headache. Otherwise it's just worked.
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--Zachris Topelius
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Glad to hear hope it continues to work for you because if you need support the only way you're going to get it is if you dig deep into your pocket, otherwise your cries will fall on deaf ears.
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It's the same when you're stupid.
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Ater the fiasco I had with a couple of 1.5TB drives from Seagate and their complete denial of any problem with the drives, I refuse to touch anything by them any more. Their "RAID Certified" drives wouldn't work reliably in a RAID configuration, breaking the RAID at going through a rebuild at least once a day.
3 flash upgrades later, the drives now "work", as in they don't give the RAID controller the impression that the array is broken, but the drives have to do something akin to restarting themselves to work again, causing a rather sizable delay in the access of any data.
It took them over a year to finally-sort-of-admit there was a problem and come up with fixes that "worked".
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OriginalGriff wrote: <400GB left
Good lord man, I consider <1GB free as "a bit full"!
Marc
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It's 10% of "nominal capacity" before RAID 5 (formatted capacity of the current one is just under 3TB after RAID) so it's getting a little close to my "worry" level - if I needed to make a HDD mirror of a new PC it would be tight.
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I've gotta agree with Griff here. My home NAS is about 2/3rds to 3/4ths full on a 3TB mirror. It's not urgent yet; but if WHS 2011 didn't only have a single year of support left (and no upgrade path) I'd probably be plonking another drive into it the next time someone had NAS grade drives on sale. As is, I'm keeping a somewhat closer watch on its capacity; and will probably get a replacement in place this fall instead of early next year.
For peace of mind, I'd want to have the new box running in parallel with the old one for a month or three; so waiting until the old one is completely full first isn't acceptable.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: For peace of mind, I'd want to have the new box running in parallel with the old one for a month or three; so waiting until the old one is completely full first isn't acceptable.
Oh, I agree, it was just interesting to me the different scale of things. My home system has 3 128GB SSD's, and I back up actually to my laptop for personal stuff and all personal and client work lives on GitHub as well (or the client's source control system). But it's interesting that I'm still happy and quite functional in a 1/2 TB world.
I actually just got a new 500GB SSD, but haven't even installed it yet!
Marc
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Why not just add the new toy to the network, leaving the current one in place as is? Reliability concerns?
According to my calculations, I should be able to retire about 5 years after I die.
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Data duplication concerns.
I'd rather have it in one place - plus I can sell the old one once the new is burnt in.
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If you really need to send the data from the old to the new one... just remember to put the old one on top of the new one... it's always faster when bits go down...
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And don't bend the cables - the zeros will be OK, but the ones will get stuck in the corners. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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OriginalGriff wrote: And soon will come the fun: transfer from old to new...
That's easy.
Just take the discs out of the old Raid, and put them in the new one. Job done.
You can send the leftover discs to me, for disposal.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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In theory, that should work.
But...I don't trust theories, so I'll leave the new disks in and copy the data in case the new NAS doesn't recognise the format from the old one. I'd really hate to lose all that data.
But thank you very much for being so considerate with my disposal needs! 
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16 TB!
That should be illegal!
Don't for get to get 2 though so you can backup the backup.
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I would use robocopy for the transfer:
robocopy <source> <destination>
A bunch of options are available.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.
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I'm hoping to be able to do that within the NAS by connecting it to the old one as a share so I don't have to take everything via the PC. I know the last time I did this it took all day and night via PC FTP, and I've added a lot since then.
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If it runs Linux, then what is the file system, FAT32? NTFS? Something else?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Don't know - it's possible it's EXTn, my first NAS box used that (but it wasn't RAID).
If I have to find out, it means there has been a major problem!
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IIRC Most of them run using the EXTn FS. BTRFS's raid support isn't considered officially production ready yet; and AIUI licensing incompatibilities make shipping a product with the Linux kernel and ZFS both pre-installed problematic. I covered why they don't just port their base platform to BSD a bit earlier over on the insider forum[^].
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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