|
Most of the recruiters I've been talking to are Indian, or sound like it. One of these guys' English was so bad, I couldn't understand a word he said. I figured he REALLY was in India recruiting in the US. I asked him if I could speak to someone that spoke English.
After the call I looked him up. He actually is working for a head hunter firm in Pennsylvania. That got me thinking... a recruiter is someone's first interaction with a company and a protential position. Why in the world would the recruiting firm hire someone with very little English skills??
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
|
|
|
|
|
I've been getting that for years. It seems like a around the early 2000s someone had the brilliant idea to set up some kind of boiler room/call centers where they use dumb software to comb internet job sites looking for resumes and plucking key words, which they then vaguely match to similarly obtained requirements postings. The people who run these probably pay nothing or close to it per hour or per call, but if they manage to contact someone and it results in a job, they get some huge bonus (perhaps a dollar or more?). And these telephone drones are desperate. ANY match between your resume and the job posting will get you a call, often dozens...even from the same "recruiting company". Mostly they barely speak English, they have no technical knowledge and they have never seen a globe or a US map. And the words from your resume that they think match may have nothing to do with the job. If you're a C++ developer but you live on Ruby Rd or Java Dr, guess what kind of jobs you're going to be offered the most?
They're almost guaranteed not to have actually read your resume, so even if you put in something like HIGHLY EXPERIENCED VETERAN DEVELOPER LOOKING FOR PERMANENT OR 1-YEAR MINIMUM CONTRACT POSITIONS IN NEW ENGLAND OR NEW YORK, you'll get calls for entry-level 2-month projects in Oklahoma or Oregon.
I let most calls I don't recognize on my cell phone go to voice mail, and 90% of the time it's an Indian "recruiter". I call them back in direct proportion to how much they sound like they understand English and know what they're talking about. So I only call back about 1 in 20. I have actually terminated phone calls because I simply couldn't understand the person or even the "supervisor" they got on the line.
Worst thing: For some reason some of these "telerecruiters" think that if the more they call you, the better the chance you will call back. Several times I've received 20+ voice messages within 2 or 3 hours from the same recruiter if I didn't pick up or return their call! What could be ruder?
When I started doing contract work, 99% of the time from the initial contact to the actual start of the job was handled by local, US-born Americans. Now it seems like 90% of the time the initial contact is made by someone foreign-sounding calling me. 
|
|
|
|
|
LOL, 100% totally true.
The problem today is that is seems like many companies are going through these recruiters, so often times when you see a job posting, you have no idea what company it's for until AFTER you speak to Pragrash, or Sundeep, or Prat, or whoever the F@%#&*@ is calling, and you sit through 20 minutes of "WTH did you just say?"
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
|
|
|
|
|
The one that sticks in my mind is an email from a recruiter stating that the client wanted somebody with five years .net development experience...
...in 2002.
|
|
|
|
|
This is why I dread making myself visible on any job search site. The massive number of phishing emails from basement dwellers looking for a referral check.
|
|
|
|
|
1) "Yes, I would love to do your job for you.
I get similar hits off of LinkedIn frequently. "Hey random person I've never met, we should be connected, so I can try to get you to find candidates for me."
|
|
|
|
|
Speaking of recruiters: When it rains, it pours. (http://howardleeharkness.com/2013/05/when-it-rains-it-pours/)
That's happened often enough, I've come to expect it. I recently landed a local contract, and now I'm getting 3-5 calls per day and about 10 emails, up from 3-5 calls and 10 emails per week before I landed the contract.
This time around, however, I'm seeing ads for contracts that are at least borderline fraudulent. For example: http://howardleeharkness.com/2015/03/strange-contract-posting/
I saw lots of these "H1-b qualifiers" back in the 80's & 90's, after which the people responsible for them started getting a little better at disguising them. But this one is in-your-face obvious. Volt is now on my short list of contract agencies to ignore.
|
|
|
|
|
Is more common than people think.
It's getting worse due to outsourcing and the increase of Non I.T. Project Managers,
whom does not perform good interviews, or does not check headhunters.
I'm a developer that consider to study either Psychology or Human Resources,
(also Psychology related), and went for Computer Science.
I still read about it, on my spare time.
You may see Factories been audited, Software Been audit,
Accouting been audited, but, not Human Resources.
Human Resources people is still considered as the "nice ladies",
or "nice dude" who interview people.
TLDR; Human Resources is broken.
|
|
|
|
|
Don't even get me started on stupid recruiters.
When recruiters call my phone or send me email, I always try to be polite, on the grounds that sometimes they are offering me a six-figure job. But they make it so hard.
Like the ones who got ahold of my resume because I made the serious mistake of posting it on CareerBuilder for ONE DAY! I get recruiter spam every day now for jobs tangentally related to developers in every city in the united states. No, I don't want to be a tester in Boca Ratan or a systems administrator in Fargo. Sheesh. And of course the unsubscribe link is broken.
Actually the CareerBuilder experience was even worse than that. I also got half-a-dozen emails from multi-level marketing types wanting me to sell insurance I think. And their attitude was all "Are you good enough to do this job?" And package forwarding scams. Sigh. At any rate, never post your resume on CareerBuilder.
Or the recruiters who say, "I found your resume on the web, and you are a perfect candidate for this job..." when the job is clearly not suited to my experience which the recruiter would have known if they'd actually ever seen my resume. Honestly, why waste their time and mine.
Or the recruiters who call me on voice lines so noisy, and with accents so thick and english so poor that communication is impossible. How is such a person going to sell me to an employer? Maybe this is like spam, where they only have to make one sale out of 10,000 attempts in order to eat for a year in whatever country they're calling from. They would certainly starve to death if they were U.S. based.
In 35 years of dev experience, I have had one single recruiter who ever actually found me a decent job, and one other who found me some decent interviews. I keep their business cards in a vault in a secret location, so don't ask. They are too precious to waste.
|
|
|
|
|
Kid uses Chrome and does her school work via Google Docs. There seems to be a bit of malware about that attacks Chrome. Not sure of origin, checked her browsing history and nothing amiss. She has been doing this for 2 years now with no issue.
The bad bit is the malware disables u$ Security Essentials and displays ads on Chrome
I gave my daughter a weak account on her laptop, removed chrome, ran u$SE from another account which on inspection has fixed the problem.
When removing chrome I was given a survey why I wanted to remove chrome. I did not wish to answer every stink'n question on this rather large survey, but after attempting to submit the survey disallowed it until every question was answered.
I then removed chrome from all household OS instances a few days later, the survey was now a one question multiple choice question, with malware being the second choice. Hmmmmm.
Anyone else having issues chrome?
Rage against the narrative.
"To Build a Fire" - A dystopian novel about project management, and I am the dog.
|
|
|
|
|
No, nothing.
Mind you, I don't use Google Docs (I have Office on PC and WPS on Android so I haven't needed to).
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
|
|
|
|
|
OriginalGriff wrote: Office
So 5 minutes ago. 
but for chrome related malware. 
Kiddy pies now use Google Docs for getting assignments and turning in homework. It's the thang.
Rage against the narrative.
"To Build a Fire" - A dystopian novel about project management, and I am the dog.
|
|
|
|
|
:shrug:
I like Outlook - I have quite a few rules set up - and Word files are a de facto industry standard, so I have to use it. Excel is simply the best spreadsheet I've ever met. Access is...um...the VB of databases.
If I feel the need to move to the cloud, I might go with google docs. But I don't feel the need to join that herd of stampeding buffalo (and I suspect there is a cliff ahead) 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
|
|
|
|
|
Nope. Chrome has been fine as well as Google Docs.
However, no MSSE involved on any of my machines.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
|
|
|
|
|
Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote: u$
Still, to this day?
Even Slashdot has given up on these childish antics...(mostly).
|
|
|
|
|
My kids seem to find these game sites as well. They claim the games won't run on IE. I don't doubt it, but then I spend the next week cleaning up all the superfluous installs that are causing internet popups - even when the browser is not currently started.
I use Chrome at work, but it's not allowed on my PC at home any more.
Brent
|
|
|
|
|
I'm one of the lucky ones who has never had problems with chrome.
Mind you, I'm sure that status would change if I used it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
|
|
|
|
|
Here[^]
I love the comment: "This is nice. Whenever SpaceX takes a break from launching real rockets, we can watch cartoons of pretend rockets taking off."
Gads, and that music track is so 80's in its emotive orchestral rendering. I wonder how much they paid for that little piece of PR.
Marc
|
|
|
|
|
I think they just ripped that music off the older computer game M.A.X. (Mechanized Assault and Exploration)
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
|
|
|
|
|
What the hell is WSO CCC???
There's so much stuff posted here that make absolutely no sense at all.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
|
|
|
|
|
|
Winner Stays On* Criptic Crossword Clue**
It has been a fixture since the much missed Fat Boy Fat left these shores for the delinquent pleasures of Lutonian politics.
- A good old school boys phrase that in any competition, the winner carries on playing.
** A clue, for a crossword type puzzle, that is cryptic
veni bibi saltavi
|
|
|
|
|
Your response is juts as cryptic
I have no clue what you're talking about
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
|
|
|
|
|
You seem to be having a problem with what the word 'cryptic' means
veni bibi saltavi
|
|
|
|
|
Crossword clues come in two types: "Simple" and "Cryptic".
Simple ones are just a word that means what the clue is: "Simple (5)" would mean "something simple, five letters" and the answer could be "BASIC"
Cryptic clues are more complex - and you have a link to some info on them already.
These are Cryptic Crossword Clues - hence the "CCC" part of the name.
The "WSO" part means "Winner Stays On" and says that the first person to get the answer and solution posted gets to set it the next day (Monday to Friday inclusive) - the "winner" gets to "stay on" and set the next problem.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
